Match Day Rnd 13 V Richmond. MCG. 13.45 pm.

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  • crackedactor
    Regular in the Side
    • May 2012
    • 919

    Originally posted by Meg
    Staging is a reportable offence which can attract a penalty of a written reprimand (first offence), $1500/$1000 fine (2nd) or $2500/$1500 (3rd and subsequent). Has been in the Tribunal rules for several years.

    And Rance should have been receiving a letter this week. Or possibly a fine if both his Oscar routines in the match had been assessed.
    Nearly every footy show panelist has blasted Rance for staging. However somehow , the tribunal cannot see that.


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    • barry
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 8499

      They will only penalise staging if the stagger wasnt touched like in soccer. Otherwise it's too hard to judge force.

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      • Meg
        Go Swannies!
        Site Admin
        • Aug 2011
        • 4828

        Match Day Rnd 13 V Richmond. MCG. 13.45 pm.

        Originally posted by barry
        They will only penalise staging if the stagger wasnt touched like in soccer. Otherwise it's too hard to judge force.
        In the practice of the MRP rule I think you are right. For example, Jarrad Waite was penalised (written reprimand) in 2014 for pretending he had been hit in the face when footage showed he had not. I think that was one of the very few times the penalty has been used since its introduction in 2010.
        Last edited by Meg; 20 June 2017, 12:05 AM.

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        • liz
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          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16778

          Originally posted by Meg
          In the practice of the MRP rule I think you are right. For example, Jarrad Waite was penalised (written remand) in 2014 for pretending he had been hit in the face when footage showed he had not. I think that was one of the very few times the penalty has been used since its introduction in 2010.
          Leroy Jetta was cited once. I think he might have been the first.

          I was more irritated by Rance's "dive" a few moments earlier when he went down in a heap after being edged out by Buddy in a contest. Saved an almost certain goal to Buddy and it was the kind of contact that is normally considered to be "great body use" by a forward (or a defender).

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          • dejavoodoo44
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            • Apr 2015
            • 8652

            Originally posted by Meg
            In the practice of the MRP rule I think you are right. For example, Jarrad Waite was penalised (written remand) in 2014 for pretending he had been hit in the face when footage showed he had not. I think that was one of the very few times the penalty has been used since its introduction in 2010.
            Hmm, Matthew Lloyd retired in 2009. The sanctions were introduced in 2010. Could their introduction be a testimonial to the career of the Dive Bomber?

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            • dejavoodoo44
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              • Apr 2015
              • 8652

              Originally posted by liz
              Leroy Jetta was cited once. I think he might have been the first.

              I was more irritated by Rance's "dive" a few moments earlier when he went down in a heap after being edged out by Buddy in a contest. Saved an almost certain goal to Buddy and it was the kind of contact that is normally considered to be "great body use" by a forward (or a defender).
              Yes, that seemed to be more or less, hip to hip contact, with no pushing. I was also a bit annoyed, when Rance seemed to get a couple of frees in the final quarter, for having his arms chopped. I suspect that in the previous few quarters, there may have been times when he could have given away a free for the same offence?

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              • Nico
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                • Jan 2003
                • 11339

                Originally posted by bloodspirit
                Heeney's cleanness with the ball, as well as his hardness and courage, is what makes him such a special player. Totally agree.
                No coincidence that the game changed when he was put on the pill. Played a lot of the first quarter up forward where the ball didn't go.
                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                • Meg
                  Go Swannies!
                  Site Admin
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 4828

                  Originally posted by liz
                  Leroy Jetta was cited once. I think he might have been the first.
                  Yes Leroy Jetta was the first (in 2012). He got a written reprimand for a first offence. As with the Waite example, Jetta pretended something that didn't happen - Jetta fell down clutching his face following minor contact with his chest.

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                  • bloodspirit
                    Clubman
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 4448

                    Angus Monfries is the only other stager mentioned in this article: Did Rance stage? MRP says 'not excessive' - AFL.com.au.

                    Last night I started a thread about staging in the general footy forum since it is not especially Swans related (thankfully).
                    All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                    • 111431
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 698

                      Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                      By the way, not sure it's been mentioned and apologies if it has.

                      With Heeney's goal in the third (after an absolutely cracking tackle by Newman, the new fave on here) did everyone appreciate just how smooth and absurdly easy he made the pick up and left foot kick for goal look?

                      The three quick steps, the clean hands, the assessment of time and space, the balance on his left, the purity of the strike. It was truly ridiculous and easy to take for granted because it looked simple.

                      But it really was magic.
                      yes he will be a great talent. He has very soft hands, allows the ball to come to him rather than try and snatch it leaving less possibility of a fumble

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                      • Scottee
                        Senior Player
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1585

                        Originally posted by bloodspirit
                        Angus Monfries is the only other stager mentioned in this article: Did Rance stage? MRP says 'not excessive' - AFL.com.au.

                        Last night I started a thread about staging in the general footy forum since it is not especially Swans related (thankfully).
                        So, quite clearly, a certain amount of staging is considered OK. Where do they draw the line FFS?
                        We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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                        • bloodspirit
                          Clubman
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 4448

                          Via the backwoods of this website (RWO) I discovered a link to the Tigers' fansite and then navigated to their thread about this match. Here's the link for any who are curious: Match Review & Yellow Sash Voting - [Round 13: Richmond v Sydney AFL2017] | Yellow and Black Website
                          All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                          • stevoswan
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                            • Sep 2014
                            • 8560

                            Originally posted by Scottee
                            So, quite clearly, a certain amount of staging is considered OK. Where do they draw the line FFS?
                            At least some are calling it for what it is.Stop-The-Flop-AFL-v1.jpg @ Coaches slam staging 'embarrassment' - AFL.com.au That picture is pretty damning!
                            Last edited by stevoswan; 20 June 2017, 04:41 PM.

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                            • stevoswan
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                              • Sep 2014
                              • 8560

                              Some interesting stuff for the stats buffs out there (Swans feature a bit, at the start at least): Firework season and the stark stat for Tiger fans - AFL.com.au

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                              • jono2707
                                Goes up to 11
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 3326

                                Perhaps the public humiliation of Rance this week is more punishment than a suspension anyway....
                                Does take away from the fact that he had a superb game on the weekend, regardless of what some of the experts proclaimed on the match day thread.

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