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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 15976

    Zak and Buddy cleared

    Zak Jones cleared contact MHannan. Panel said Jones tapped ball with right hand when braced for contact and was contesting the ball.

    Lance Franklin cleared contact Mitch Hannan. Franklin was in tackling motion and insufficient impact in high contact for a report.
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    • AnnieH
      RWOs Black Sheep
      • Aug 2006
      • 11332

      Originally posted by ugg
      Zak and Buddy cleared

      Zak Jones cleared contact MHannan. Panel said Jones tapped ball with right hand when braced for contact and was contesting the ball.

      Lance Franklin cleared contact Mitch Hannan. Franklin was in tackling motion and insufficient impact in high contact for a report.
      Thanks Ugg.
      Whew.
      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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      • Beerman
        Regular in the Side
        • Oct 2010
        • 823

        Originally posted by ugg
        Zak and Buddy cleared

        Zak Jones cleared contact MHannan. Panel said Jones tapped ball with right hand when braced for contact and was contesting the ball.

        Lance Franklin cleared contact Mitch Hannan. Franklin was in tackling motion and insufficient impact in high contact for a report.
        My first thought when I saw the incident was that Zak was in trouble, as it looked like he bumped, but on review he was clearly chasing the ball. Still thought he might cop a fine though, so glad he got off.

        The suggestions that Franklins action was reportable were laughable.

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        • Beerman
          Regular in the Side
          • Oct 2010
          • 823

          Originally posted by barry
          What about last touch is a free handball to the opposition?. Much like in soccer. A free kick is too big a penalty.
          Interesting idea. Turns it into a bit of a game of netball/keepings off.

          I'd be happy with a free kick for last touch and with a ball-up 15m out for any rushed behind.

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          • KTigers
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2012
            • 2499

            I think if that is what other teams think then they just haven't watched him stand under a ball waiting
            to get crunched as many times as he has. I also suspect that Mills is not a saint out there on the field
            when it comes to the verbal side of things. He is a tough character and he'll be fine. He won the Rising
            Star, they don't just hand it out without a good reason.

            Originally posted by Markwebbos
            I wonder if teams target Mills because they think it works i.e. He can be physically intimidated. Once one team "succeeds" every team copies.

            Look what happened after we targeted JJ.
            Last edited by KTigers; 3 July 2017, 05:39 PM.

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            • Hotpotato
              Senior Player
              • Jun 2014
              • 2285

              Mills is tough , for sure. I was quite surprised he was eliminated from the game on the basis of a concussion test behind closed doors and he looked seriously cheesed off about it (failing) on the bench .
              Actually I remain mystified by it all. If he's named for Saturdays game , even more so .

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16786

                Originally posted by Hotpotato
                Mills is tough , for sure. I was quite surprised he was eliminated from the game on the basis of a concussion test behind closed doors and he looked seriously cheesed off about it (failing) on the bench .
                Actually I remain mystified by it all. If he's named for Saturdays game , even more so .
                Not sure that failing a concussion test after being whacked in the face says anything about how tough he is. It just says he was showing signs of concussion. The onus is on doctors not to allow players back on if there are any signs of even a mild concussion.

                Nor do I think that changes if he is deemed fit to play this weekend. Some players are fine a week after being concussed, others not. It probably depends, to some extent, on the degree of concussion.

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  Originally posted by Meg
                  As per the law I've posted earlier there is no 'deliberate' in the current wording of the law.
                  Meg you make a very valid point. We should not call it "deliberate" (or scream that at the umpires). We should call it "insufficient intent to keep the ball in play" as that's what the rule is.

                  Although the rule stills requires umpires to mind read.

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                  • KTigers
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 2499

                    Mills always strikes me as an extremely competitive and driven guy, and was likely furious (he certainly
                    looked it) that he wasn't playing, after failing the concussion test. The club essentially anointed Mills a long
                    time ago as someone likely to have a long and successful career, and they wouldn't have done that
                    if they had one iota of doubt about him. In the end Bugg was probably even more rattled than Mills,
                    his measly six possessions basically made it a 21 vs 21 player game for the most part.

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                    • Markwebbos
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186

                      On Bugg the Thug rather than send him to the tribunal I reckon he has to spend 2 minutes alone in hand to hand combat with Zak Jones.

                      That should teach him a lesson.

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                      • barry
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8499

                        Originally posted by Beerman
                        Interesting idea. Turns it into a bit of a game of netball/keepings off.

                        I'd be happy with a free kick for last touch and with a ball-up 15m out for any rushed behind.
                        A handball in sounds odd, but when you think about it, a throw in for soccer is even more absurd. It's the only time you can use your hands.

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                        • Beerman
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 823

                          Originally posted by KTigers
                          Mills always strikes me as an extremely competitive and driven guy, and was likely furious (he certainly
                          looked it) that he wasn't playing, after failing the concussion test. The club essentially anointed Mills a long
                          time ago as someone likely to have a long and successful career, and they wouldn't have done that
                          if they had one iota of doubt about him. In the end Bugg was probably even more rattled than Mills,
                          his measly six possessions basically made it a 21 vs 21 player game for the most part.
                          I don't know that Mills looked furious. He looked pretty dazed to me.

                          Bugg's poor game was interesting, as was his decision to not change is jumper. While it's hard to know what was going on in his head, it was certainly consistent with him being very concerned about what was going to happen to him as a result.

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                          • sprite
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 813

                            Originally posted by crackedactor
                            Papley's bump caused a turnover which was disgusting decision again by a Victorian based umpire. Which is worse? punching a guy into a state of concussion or giving a guy a gentle bump, which he easily falls backwards. Obviously the bump was worse!!
                            If you listened, when the umpire was telling the players of the report, he kept on saying don't do anything to reverse the kick, as he was informing Bugg of the report.

                            I think most players understood the situation. The Papley comes in and knocks him over, not very bright IMO.

                            That's local / country football tactics which usually result in more punches and more reports. Papley could have have chested him and given him a spray.
                            sprite

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                            • sprite
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 813

                              I think the AFL should have a rule, that if a player is forced out of game through concussion due to a reportable incident, then one of the emergencies could be brought into the game as a replacement.
                              sprite

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                              • Mountain Man
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 910

                                Can anyone enlighten us as to the sort of "test" is involved for concussion?

                                I remember the alcohol test of walking a straight line and fingers to the nose; then there is "what day is it today, and who is Prime Minister", but surely it is more scientific than just questions.

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