Changes for Round 17 v GWS

[barry]

Minimal changes for a winning side. In jpk. If jpk not available then bring in Allir.

GWS task forward line is disfunctional at the moment. Swans should study the hawthorn game.

[Ludwig]

In Kennedy Allir

Out Robinson Florent

Now that Jack is back in form and Jones can play as a pressure forward, these are my changes. Newman has played too well over too long to be dropped. Allir to come back in and stay in.

Yes, this is the most logical choice for changes this week.

The WCE were going okay until they decided to bring in a second ruckman in Lycett and got overrun in the 4th quarter. Just the kind of thing that tends to happen when a 2 ruckman side plays a 1 ruckman side. Sinclair has played well in the reserves and racked up lots of fantasy points and kicked some easy goals, but he dropped a few sitters as well. I think he's found his level in the NEAFL.

Hayward very unlikely to come in after not playing at any level for 2 weeks and we are not even sure if he's fully fit yet.

The talk of dropping Newman is just crazy. He's been one of our best players since joining the senior team. He's 6th in average disposals. He's only played 12 games of senior footy, but plays like a veteran. Fantasy points is not the be all and end all, but he's been averaging over 100 in the past 8 games. You don't drop a player with those kind of stats.

GWS still went in quite tall last week with 8 KPPs compared to our 5, so that has to even up a bit. There's a chance that any or all of Greene, Williams and Steve Johnson could return to their team this week, so we may be facing a stronger GWS. We are fortunate to have our best side as well, if we make the changes suggested.

[Bloody Hell]

If only Dawson had been the emergency. Would have been a good swap for Kennedy. In hindsight...now noone knows.

[Bloody Hell]

Wouldn't be surprised, but I'd be disappointed to see Sinclair back in the side, despite his heroics against a garbage Sun's reserves.

I think the RWO consensus is fairly logical.

[ugg]

If only Dawson had been the emergency. Would have been a good swap for Kennedy. In hindsight...now noone knows.

Dawson's injured so in hindsight I think it was a solid move.

[RogueSwan]

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In the ruck, can Towers / Reid /Parker compete with Lobb, ...

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[KTigers]

GWS have some pretty decent possible "ins" this week, in Williams and RWO favourites Greene & Johnson, and as
someone else pointed out they have 8 KPP sized guys out there already, so finding a way to cover them all will
be an interesting proposition for Longmire. At this point, I'd take a draw, but not sure that will be acceptable to
our friends at Homebush.

[Monty]

Joey is a given if fit and replaces Robbo. If the selectors go tall to match GWS height then either or both of Sinkers & AA come in. If they stick with a single ruckman and stay mobile then likely no other changes.

An interesting comment re Blicavs of Geelong during the week. He is playing on the wing and getting back to his best form. Blicavs is not disimmilar to AA and this for me is his logical place. AA is not a lock down KDP and as much as they try I dont think he ever will be. AA is however one of the most exciting prospects in the mould of a roaming Blicavs (current) or Goodes (past players).

[Boddo]

Joey is a given if fit and replaces Robbo. If the selectors go tall to match GWS height then either or both of Sinkers & AA come in. If they stick with a single ruckman and stay mobile then likely no other changes.

An interesting comment re Blicavs of Geelong during the week. He is playing on the wing and getting back to his best form. Blicavs is not disimmilar to AA and this for me is his logical place. AA is not a lock down KDP and as much as they try I dont think he ever will be. AA is however one of the most exciting prospects in the mould of a roaming Blicavs (current) or Goodes (past players).

In regards to the Goodes comparison no. Just plain no. Aliir is not and never will be close to the player Goodes was.

[AB Swannie]

Why would we want to go taller and slower? As I've said before, GWS has beaten us recently due to speed not height.

[Ludwig]

Why would we want to go taller and slower? As I've said before, GWS has beaten us recently due to speed not height.

Taller and slower don't necessarily go together. JPK is certainly slower than whoever he replaces, but no one will care about that. If Sinclair comes in, yes, we will be going taller and slower, but with Aliir it will be taller and faster. What has been helping the team lately is that some of our quicker players, like Rohan, Towers and KJ are getting more of the ball. It doesn't help if you're fast unless you actually have an opportunity to do something with the ball in your possession.

I usually don't worry about being done for height, but if it becomes too great a gap it is easy for the opposition to isolate players in a mismatch. All 3 of GWS's tall forwards are quality players. Cameron is having a great year and Patton has been in sizzling form lately.

This is as close to a must win as it gets. We are going in with close to our best 22, while the Giants have been in ordinary form, despite their good record. They're not blowing anyone away. So if we can't beat them this week, we are just premiership pretenders.

[rojo]

This game is going to be important in so many ways. Regardless of the ins and outs for both teams we are going to find out whether our form and players of the past few weeks can stand up against a team likely to be top two, which has had the wood over us the last few times we have met. I'm especially looking forward to seeing Hanners, Rohan, Reid, Lloyd, Towers and Hewett play with confidence and poise in an important high pressure game and it will be interesting to see how Melican and Newman go. We should be right if we play switched on team football for 4 quarters!! If we have 2 or 3 players either shut down, going missing for periods of the game or making multiple clangers we could be in trouble.

I would love to see Aliir get a game if we need another tall but how would he go being thrown in for such a tough match? While he was a real revelation when he came in last year, he seemed all at sea in his one game earlier this year. This may not be the match to upset the current balance of the team but winning every game is crucial to our being in the finals, and we do need to find a place for Aliir sometime before then.

[waswan]

Kennedy for Robinson
Alir for Floreant
Sinclair for Sammy

Alir gives us flexibility for defence and ruck
Sinclair better against mummy then sammy last time
Alir also a chop out for Rampe who struggles on Cameron

[AB Swannie]

but with Aliir it will be taller and faster.

Is Aliir really faster than Florent or Hayward over 4 quarters of footy? If so, I'm all for it then. I doubt it though.

[Nico]

Taller and slower don't necessarily go together. JPK is certainly slower than whoever he replaces, but no one will care about that. If Sinclair comes in, yes, we will be going taller and slower, but with Aliir it will be taller and faster. What has been helping the team lately is that some of our quicker players, like Rohan, Towers and KJ are getting more of the ball. It doesn't help if you're fast unless you actually have an opportunity to do something with the ball in your possession.

I usually don't worry about being done for height, but if it becomes too great a gap it is easy for the opposition to isolate players in a mismatch. All 3 of GWS's tall forwards are quality players. Cameron is having a great year and Patton has been in sizzling form lately.

This is as close to a must win as it gets. We are going in with close to our best 22, while the Giants have been in ordinary form, despite their good record. They're not blowing anyone away. So if we can't beat them this week, we are just premiership pretenders.

It's funny, when we watch a game of footy we get a bit confused how tall a player is. Josh, you wouldn't think, is tall, but you stand next to him (unless you are a tall person) and you will be surprised how tall he is. I have joked on here over the years about people saying this could bloke play tall or this one could play short when they are neither tall or short. I doubt Tom Papley could play tall, but Hewett could play short. Not that he can get any shorter but he could play on a short player. So I think you need to be able to match on key talls with taller players. Usually you have more shorter/mid size plays who can play on shorter players than talls who can play on tall players. While Ludwig continues his love affair with Allir, I think what he says makes sense, as Allir fits into that bracket that every club dreams of recruiting.

As an aside I was recently introduced to the ex North player Anthony Stevens, who now goes to the yoga studio I attend. What struck me was how tall he is. Yet on the field you would say he was an average size midfielder. He has to be 6'2". I would have said 5'10" at the most when he played. IIRC he mainly matched up on midfielder rather than as a role player. By the way, a really nice bloke.