Changes for Rnd 18 V St Kilda

[liz]

If he plays NEAFL I'll be fuming. BOG several times in a row - sheesh!

He did miss a fortnight prior to last week's game (but so did Hayward, who then didn't even play last week's NEAFL game out).

It is becoming harder to understand why he's not getting an opportunity, given how dominant he's been at NEAFL level. Maybe there's something to do with team structures that they think he still needs to learn.

Sinclair in for Reid isn't too bad (if Reid had to miss). Better than bringing an unfit Tippett into the side. Sinclair's been in good form in the reserves, mostly playing in the forward line. Ludwig will be glad to know that he's been marking the ball well, plus his kicking for goal has been pretty reasonable too.

[Markwebbos]

Any indication how long Reid might be out for?

[Club 80]

Why not Dawson?

Why Robinson?

What am I missing? Dawson is a similar size. Is Robinson much quicker with far greater defensive capability than Dawson?

Sinclair deserves another chance. Is in great form and fresh from a week off.

Over to Ludwig to let fly on why two Ruckman were selected and the not Aliir.

[royboy42]

Why not Dawson?

Why Robinson?

What am I missing? Dawson is a similar size. Is Robinson much quicker with far greater defensive capability than Dawson?

Sinclair deserves another chance. Is in great form and fresh from a week off.

Over to Ludwig to let fly on why two Ruckman were selected and the not Aliir.

Robbo is a proven established best 22 who was only out due injury. When he became fit again, he was duly reinstated.

I'm content to have Ludwig share his own opinions.

[ugg]

While Sinclair for Reid makes sense as a tall forward for a tall forward, it could prove disruptive in terms of the ruck setup. Unless they persist with Towers as the second ruck and leave Sinclair inside 50

[AB Swannie]

I'm not very pleased with Sinclair being selected.

1. I think Naismith has done very well as the lone ruck increasing his time on ground to around 82% per game over the past three games allowing more rotations for our midfielders, increasing our ability to run out games. Therefore, I don't want this being messed with because we have Sinclair in the 22.

2. If Sinclair is simply taking Reid's spot in the forward line and will have no impact on Naismith's role, then we are severely reducing our talent. He drops way too many marks as a forward and has no ability to put pressure on once the ball hits the ground. I'm worried his opponent will simply run off him. Sinclair has no ability to play as the swingman either like Reid. IMO, Dawson or Aliir would've been a much greater selection to replace Reid.

[Mountain Man]

St Kilda have introduced a 2nd ruck in Marshall who is making a debut appearance.

[barry]

Dawson, Dawson, Dawson. This forum is obsessed with him.
He's not ready, and he's not the answer.

[mcs]

I'm not very pleased with Sinclair being selected.

1. I think Naismith has done very well as the lone ruck increasing his time on ground to around 82% per game over the past three games allowing more rotations for our midfielders, increasing our ability to run out games. Therefore, I don't want this being messed with because we have Sinclair in the 22.

2. If Sinclair is simply taking Reid's spot in the forward line and will have no impact on Naismith's role, then we are severely reducing our talent. He drops way too many marks as a forward and has no ability to put pressure on once the ball hits the ground. I'm worried his opponent will simply run off him. Sinclair has no ability to play as the swingman either like Reid. IMO, Dawson or Aliir would've been a much greater selection to replace Reid.

Sinclair has had 2 very good NEAFL games in a row, playing a lot of time as a forward target, kicking 9 goals across those 2 games. He is in good form

He has vastly outplayed Aliir in both those games.

Dawson would have also seen a significant change in our structure, with the loss of a key tall forward marking.

I'm comfortable with Sinclair coming in, he will play a role for the team. He is far from the best player going around, but he will do a job.

[AB Swannie]

Sinclair has had 2 very good NEAFL games in a row, playing a lot of time as a forward target, kicking 9 goals across those 2 games. He is in good form

He has vastly outplayed Aliir in both those games.

Dawson would have also seen a significant change in our structure, with the loss of a key tall forward marking.

I'm comfortable with Sinclair coming in, he will play a role for the team. He is far from the best player going around, but he will do a job.

I hope you're right. I'm normally a pretty positive guy but I've never seen Sinclair show in any of his senior games as being a competent KPF. He might've had success in this role in NEAFL but it'll be a massive step up against the Saints.

[S.S. Bleeder]

If he plays NEAFL I'll be fuming. BOG several times in a row - sheesh!

I can't figure it out either but the coaches know more than us. There must be a part of his game that he needs to improve on (as they did with Tich) or he's not follow the game plan and needs to do that before being elevated. On results alone he deserves his spot.

[CureTheSane]

Re Dawson.
The same happened with Newman and others.
Many here (probably rightly) banging on about how wonderful he is and why he isn't getting a go.
Same with Mitchell when he was getting 50 possies in the reserves.

Fair enough, but to me it's pretty simple.
The coaching staff are asking specif things and looking for specific areas of growth.
They have an agenda and when the time is right, Dawson will get a run.
Other players obviously were ticking more boxes. Heeney, Mills, etc all walked in to the side.
So given that the club is not opposed to bringing any playing in when ready, it indicates that Dawson isn't (for whatever reason)
Allir alluded to the same thing recently.

[Odysseus]

Sinclair has had 2 very good NEAFL games in a row, playing a lot of time as a forward target, kicking 9 goals across those 2 games. He is in good form

He has vastly outplayed Aliir in both those games.

Dawson would have also seen a significant change in our structure, with the loss of a key tall forward marking.

I'm comfortable with Sinclair coming in, he will play a role for the team. He is far from the best player going around, but he will do a job.

I agree with you, mcs. What I like most about Sinclair is that he gives it his all, whenever I've seen him play. I agree that he's not the best player, but I doubt that he would claim to be, nor would those who selected him. But he was playing well before he was dropped, and from what I gather, he has not sulked about being in the twos, he's continued to work hard. So I'm quite okay with his being brought in for this match.

What I don't understand is Brandon Jack being named as an emergency. Was it the Carlton game I last saw him?, and he simply looked out of his depth. He may well try hard, and perhaps in that way is similar to Sinclair, yet I don't think he's been other than out of his depth whenever he's played in the firsts, except maybe a long time ago in the thrill of his first game or two.

[0918330512]

What I don't understand is Brandon Jack being named as an emergency. Was it the Carlton game I last saw him?, and he simply looked out of his depth. He may well try hard, and perhaps in that way is similar to Sinclair, yet I don't think he's been other than out of his depth whenever he's played in the firsts, except maybe a long time ago in the thrill of his first game or two.

You can put a jack russell in a greyhound race, it'll chase the rabbit with enthusiasm, but in the end ... it's still a jack russell

[Billericay]

Dawson, Dawson, Dawson. This forum is obsessed with him.
He's not ready, and he's not the answer.

Nor is Sinclair as a replacement for our best marking player / swingman. He's not mobile enough and can't mark. I think putting Sinkers back in the team and playing 2 rucks is a backward step. It shows how desperately short of KPFs we are - admittedly with Reid, Tippo and Cameron all injured.

Naismith is pretty huge, you wonder if he'll add marking to his game as he develops. He's still pretty young.

I'm trying to put a positive spin on Dawson not being an emergency - that they want to give him one more game in the NEAFL to get up to fitness before unleashing him in the AFL next week