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  • snajik
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2003
    • 1115

    #16
    Originally posted by Swansongster
    I don't deny anybody's right to boo under "fair" circumstances and think it is part of football when dosed out in traditional measures (such as villain of the day, opposing shot at goal, poor umpiring decision etc.).
    I'd be satisfied with 2 of the 3. The Tomas Bugg incident for example warranted subsequent booing. That was beyond the pale. Easy enough to get swept along with umpire booing if something contentious occurs, particularly technical 50 metre penalties. However if we dissect the booing of a player having a shot for goal its actually a rather odd tradition. I get that we are trying to put him off his kick (and yes I have booed in this manner) but really, don't we boo those who have erred. This poor fellow is just doing what he's paid to do. He hasn't actually done anything wrong. It would make more sense if we all made dolphin noises, or barked like seals.

    And I suspect that horrible situation with Adam Goodes may have subconsciously realigned my entire approach to booing. A very shameful episode that still affects many of us. I concur.
    It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
    The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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    • AnnieH
      RWOs Black Sheep
      • Aug 2006
      • 11332

      #17
      It's perfectly OK to boo at the footy (as I have said a gazillion times).
      Umpire makes a bad decision... boo.
      Opposition lining up for goal... boo.
      Dirty player... boo.
      These are traditions of the game.
      It's NOT OK to boo someone because they are aboriginal.
      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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      • Club 80
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Apr 2017
        • 149

        #18
        Originally posted by KTigers
        At this juncture, can I also remind everyone that Saturday night is likely to be the final appearance at the SCG of one of
        the true champs of the modern game, Nick Riewoldt. He will be returning to the ground where he took what is regarded by
        many as the most courageous mark ever taken, 13 years ago against us. Mrs Tigers and I have always had a soft spot for
        him ever since he and Kosi were so nice to our young kids at the time on a flight to Hawaii just after the 2005 season
        finished.
        I'm with you champ. I love Riewoldt as well. It may not be his final game at the SCG.

        I've put together a proposal in the list management thread for Riewoldt to join the Swans in the event that Sam Reid departs. He would provide great short term support for Buddy and would relish not playing in the AFL bubble. He would probably enjoy the surf and Yoga studios in Bondi.

        I think he is all class. The Maddy game was brilliantly done by the family.

        Let's get behind Nick and support him. If someone was to boo Nick, I would be very disappointed.

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        • 0918330512
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2011
          • 1654

          #19
          Originally posted by Club 80
          I've put together a proposal in the list management thread for Riewoldt to join the Swans in the event that Sam Reid departs. He would provide great short term support for Buddy and would relish not playing in the AFL bubble. He would probably enjoy the surf and Yoga studios in Bondi.
          Reeks of Dermie, Spider, Daffy and every other has been that's been recruited in the last 3 decades. But they are in the past. The only recent "failure" we've really had like that is Bradshaw. Our recruiters are smart. If they think Saint Nick is worth it, well & good. If not it will be consigned to the Matt80 pile of out there ideas (& at least they waited until Tom Mitchell had currency before trading him to the Hawks instead of prematurely trading him to Carlton).

          Originally posted by Club 80
          Let's get behind Nick and support him. If someone was to boo Nick, I would be very disappointed.
          Wouldn't boo him myself, but support him?! unless he's wearing red & white (without the black) why would I support him?! I barrack for a team not a player. And if I was supporting a player, he sure as heck would have a Swans jumper on! Honestly Champ

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            #20
            I think boo-ing should only be in the context of the game. For example booing of bugg is only allowed in the game he got mills. Now that's done.

            Exceptions are Hird and any of the drug cheats from essendon.

            The Goodes booing was a wake up call.

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            • Hotpotato
              Senior Player
              • Jun 2014
              • 2261

              #21
              I only really boo if there is no
              Kick-to-kick ....
              Karma will take care of the rest .

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              • penga
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2003
                • 2601

                #22
                Originally posted by Go Swannies
                Nick took that mark directly in front of me that day and I thought it was completely selfish.
                What utter rubbish. It was in front of me as well, and I stood up and applauded. As Nico said, he had eyes for the ball the whole way; the bravest mark I've seen live..

                Looks like it was Milne, anyway, play on:
                Nick Riewoldt's amazing mark against Sydney - YouTube
                C'mon Chels!

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                • Thunder Shaker
                  Aut vincere aut mori
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 4156

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Hotpotato
                  I only really boo if there is no
                  Kick-to-kick ....
                  Yeah, I'd boo that, just out of principle.
                  "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                  • Club 80
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 149

                    #24
                    Originally posted by penga
                    What utter rubbish. It was in front of me as well, and I stood up and applauded. As Nico said, he had eyes for the ball the whole way; the bravest mark I've seen live..

                    Looks like it was Milne, anyway, play on:
                    Nick Riewoldt's amazing mark against Sydney - YouTube
                    I was at the game as well. The mark was incredible. And to that individual who said the mark was selfish, he gave a handball to Harvey who goaled. A selfish player would have gone back and tried to nail that goal from 60 after that mark.

                    I loved Nick's mark from the kick out in the 2010 Grand Final draw. The Saints would not have got the ball forward to tie the game without that late mark.

                    For a corporate guy like me, that mark was worth 6 million dollars for the AFL in GF replay earnings.

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                    • BRISWAN
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 304

                      #25
                      I just boo the umpires !!!!

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                      • Club 80
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 149

                        #26
                        Originally posted by BRISWAN
                        I just boo the umpires !!!!
                        I even think booing the umpires is unacceptable. I'm taking my 7 year to the SCG tomorrow and he needs to learn to respect all players and officials. Booing derails my efforts to teach my son to respect the game.

                        A late family member of mine was a prominent Rugby Leauge referee and referee coach. I will always respect the officials and I call on the Red and White community not to boo the umpires.

                        Besides, there is no booing when a questionable decision goes the Swans way.

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                        • BRISWAN
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 304

                          #27
                          Settle Petal

                          Might be a good idea to take your boy to swimming or little Aths, if you don't want him exposed to emotional support.
                          Just understand how supporters get involved in the game and don't be so delicate.
                          Booing is part of the game whether you like it or not and it is NEVER PERSONAL.


                          Originally posted by Club 80
                          I even think booing the umpires is unacceptable. I'm taking my 7 year to the SCG tomorrow and he needs to learn to respect all players and officials. Booing derails my efforts to teach my son to respect the game.

                          A late family member of mine was a prominent Rugby Leauge referee and referee coach. I will always respect the officials and I call on the Red and White community not to boo the umpires.

                          Besides, there is no booing when a questionable decision goes the Swans way.

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                          • Club 80
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 149

                            #28
                            After the booing that happened to Adam Goodes, booing should never happen at the AFL.

                            It hurt Adam Goodes, why does it not hurt other players or officials?

                            I guess the people on here, some who joke about booing champions like Nick Riewoldt, only care about the booing when it happens to a Swans player.

                            Adam Goodes wanted the booing to stop. You should respect him by not booing any opposition players or officials.

                            Why can't you be like a pleasant Golf or Tennis crowd? They are just as emotionally involved as a football fan.

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                            • jono2707
                              Goes up to 11
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 3326

                              #29
                              I'm a Nick Riewoldt fan but what he did a few weeks ago to get the 50m penalty was reprehensible, and he deserved the boos from the home supporters that eventuated.

                              Matt - a kind word of advice - tone down the lecturing a little, as it's what's gotten you offside with other RWO'ers in the past. People will boo certain things at the footy. Fact of life....

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                              • goswannies
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 3048

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Club 80
                                After the booing that happened to Adam Goodes, booing should never happen at the AFL.

                                It hurt Adam Goodes, why does it not hurt other players or officials?

                                I guess the people on here, some who joke about booing champions like Nick Riewoldt, only care about the booing when it happens to a Swans player.

                                Adam Goodes wanted the booing to stop. You should respect him by not booing any opposition players or officials.

                                Why can't you be like a pleasant Golf or Tennis crowd? They are just as emotionally involved as a football fan.
                                I think there is a distinction between booing to put someone of when they have a shot at goal or perhaps if a player performs an unsavoury act during a game compared with the incessant unrelenting booing of Adam Goodes that you refer to.

                                "It's a little wrong to say a tomato is a vegetable, it's very wrong to say it's a suspension bridge." - Stuart (The Big Bang Theory)

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