Changes for Rnd 20 V Geelong

[penga]

Towers HAS to go.

And never come back.

[barry]

Towers HAS to go.

And never come back.

Towers is the difference.

[Captain]

The positive of the loss was it highlights our weakenesses.

Towers is soft and needs to go. Reid replaces him.

Haywood will be good but he is young and I don't want to rely on him standing up in finals. Cunningham replaces him.

Foote and Robinson are stocking fillers. Depth players and that's all. Replaced by Lloyd and Rohan.

Sinclair or Naismith are fighting it out for one spot. Naismith has the edge just if fit. Sinclair replaced by Tippett.

[Industrial Fan]

Not much in that Dangerfield tackle imo. Even without the "top bloke" discount doubt he'll get rubbed out, he's pulled him down as part of the tackle not flung his face into the turf ala Mummy on Tippett.

[Blood Fever]

The positive of the loss was it highlights our weakenesses.

Towers is soft and needs to go. Reid replaces him.

Haywood will be good but he is young and I don't want to rely on him standing up in finals. Cunningham replaces him.

Foote and Robinson are stocking fillers. Depth players and that's all. Replaced by Lloyd and Rohan.

Sinclair or Naismith are fighting it out for one spot. Naismith has the edge just if fit. Sinclair replaced by Tippett.

We need to be careful not to wipe players out after one loss. Adelaide just fell into a draw with Collingwood. Towers has been good for a number of weeks. Rohan and Lloyd will come in and Reid if he is fit. Kennedy should miss if there is any doubt about his leg. Will be a difficult selection night this week. I think Naismith should be persevered with but he too was sore during the game. Tippett may get a chance this week but his body is always a big risk.

[giant]

Melbourne boys club out in force already to try n get Dangerfield off. Every single day of the week that's atleast a week. Let's see what the MRP sees it this week????

I'd be very disappointed if we lost a player for that tackle.

Someone said JPK is out for 3 weeks - has that been confirmed?

[Markwebbos]

I'd be very disappointed if we lost a player for that tackle.

Someone said JPK is out for 3 weeks - has that been confirmed?

He's getting it scanned tomorrow so I don't know how they can say that

[Meg]

Not much in that Dangerfield tackle imo. Even without the "top bloke" discount doubt he'll get rubbed out, he's pulled him down as part of the tackle not flung his face into the turf ala Mummy on Tippett.

Except that there is an additional duty of care owed to a player who cannot protect himself because his arms are pinned.

I am not 'barracking' for Dangerfield to be suspended because we play Geelong next week (if we can't beat them with Dangerfield then we are just not good enough). But I think there is an important issue around pinning the arms in a tackle (good technique to stop the handball) and taking the player to the ground (bad technique if it causes the player's head to hit the ground).

[barry]

The positive of the loss was it highlights our weakenesses.

Towers is soft and needs to go. Reid replaces him.

Towers soft?. He had the most tackles of any swan (8). If we lost due to lack of pressure it certainly wasnt towers fault. What game we you watching?

[waswan]

Hayward foote robinson 24 poss total
you cant carry 3 of them
this is also the reason Harry if fit can come straight back in no need to waste a week in the NEAFL if all you need to make up is 8 poss

[Matty10]

Except that there is an additional duty of care owed to a player who cannot protect himself because his arms are pinned.

I am not 'barracking' for Dangerfield to be suspended because we play Geelong next week (if we can't beat them with Dangerfield then we are just not good enough). But I think there is an important issue around pinning the arms in a tackle (good technique to stop the handball) and taking the player to the ground (bad technique if it causes the player's head to hit the ground).

I actually hate the fact that players grab arms - I would like a rule change that mitigated its use (i.e. only when a fend off is used), so that a player is not deemed to be HTB if applied. There are way too many free kicks paid to players without prior opportunity trying to dispose of the ball with an arm held.

I appreciate that a fine line exists here, but I don't think Dangerfield transgressed, other than holding on too long once the ball was out (should have been a free kick to Carlton).


We do seem to be carrying a lot of players not able to play the game they want at the moment - tricky time for the selectors. I hope they only choose those who are fully fit.


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[barracuda]

To counter the experience many have had on here, I sat behind 3-4 Hawks fans and had a really good natured banter running the whole game where each of us argued the merits of why free kicks were / weren't paid (Grundy running it OOB a few times in particular) & despite the tension of the game had a few laughs that took the sting out of the loss.

Man, you are too nice!

[Markwebbos]

We do seem to be carrying a lot of players not able to play the game they want at the moment - tricky time for the selectors. I hope they only choose those who are fully fit.

I found it interesting that Jon Anderson wrote this when reviewing premiership candidates: "Have a view that every side has two or three who wouldn?t have got a game a decade ago."

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[barracuda]

I've watched Dawson live in 6 NEAFL games this year. I don't get why he is not in the seniors, despite the lateness in the season. If he is good enough play him.

[royboy42]

I found it interesting that Jon Anderson wrote this when reviewing premiership candidates: "Have a view that every side has two or three who wouldn?t have got a game a decade ago."

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He's right. A decade ago, there at least 72 fewer players playing AFL at top level. No Giants or Suns.