Toby Green - kung fu fighting?

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  • CureTheSane
    Carpe Noctem
    • Jan 2003
    • 5032

    #16
    Not it doesn't matter to me at all.
    But I feel that many are judging him on his perceived demeanor rather than his actions on the ground.
    At the very least they are drawing conclusions as to the intent of his actions based on their perceptions of him.
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    • dimelb
      pr. dim-melb; m not f
      • Jun 2003
      • 6889

      #17
      But the record of his actions on the ground simply makes it worse.
      And the perception this time, at the very least, is that he raised his foot to keep the other player at a distance and made contact with his face. That is a high grade no-no.
      He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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      • RogueSwan
        McVeigh for Brownlow
        • Apr 2003
        • 4602

        #18
        You can't fend high with a forearm, this is so much worse.
        I reckon it could be let go if it was just a high knee put out for protection but kicking out is dangerous and needs to be discouraged with a suspension.
        BTW I was impressed that Greene was able to keep a cool head and played out the game really well.
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        • AnnieH
          RWOs Black Sheep
          • Aug 2006
          • 11332

          #19
          He's a dirty little flog.
          There was another incident in the same game where he did a jumper punch.
          Wipe him out for six weeks.
          Maybe that'll teach him to keep his hands (and feet) to himself.
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          • Meg
            Go Swannies!
            Site Admin
            • Aug 2011
            • 4828

            #20
            Toby Green - kung fu fighting?

            "GREATER Western Sydney star Toby Greene has escaped suspension for planting his boot into Luke Dahlhaus's face, with the Match Review Panel fining him for misconduct.

            Greene, who was reported for rough conduct in Friday night's clash against the Western Bulldogs, was handed a fixed financial sanction of $2500, which can be reduced to $1500 with an early guilty plea.

            By categorising the incident as misconduct, the MRP did not have to put the charge through the table of offences and could fine Greene at its own discretion up to $5000."

            Star Giant and Power mid free to play, Dog cops two matches
            MRP: Greene and Wines fined, Dog cops two - M.afl.com.au

            Hmmm, Luke Parker has cause to be aggrieved by this as Luke was penalised (fined) for rough conduct for a similar but much less serious offence back in 2015. Had Greene been charged with rough conduct the penalty would certainly have been a suspension.

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            • Matty10
              Senior Player
              • Jun 2007
              • 1331

              #21
              Was it Wayne Carey who said that star players get treated lightly by the Tribunal and MRP in the lead up to the finals?

              I am not sure if Greene qualifies as a star, but he is certainly an important player for GWS.

              It seems like a soft outcome (and inconsistent when the Parker penalty is examined). I suppose the lack of consistency is what makes the MRP so consistent.


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              • Meg
                Go Swannies!
                Site Admin
                • Aug 2011
                • 4828

                #22
                Parker's was 2 years ago with a different composition panel so I suppose I shouldn't necessarily expect the same judgements to be made. But with Parker the AFL (successfully) defended the rough conduct charge at the Tribunal. Wonder if the AFL has a view on Greene?

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                • Matty10
                  Senior Player
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 1331

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Meg
                  Wonder if the AFL has a view on Greene?
                  I doubt they will publicly involve themselves this time.


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                  • Heydon
                    Registered User
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 10

                    #24
                    Probably practised that move in his backyard. What a disgusting example to young players. Recruitment poster: School yard bullies wanted to play AFL. Isn't this what the AFL wants? To muscle in on NRL territory? And the AFL's pet team needs him for the finals, after all this is the year the Greatest Waste of Space is supposed to win (despite not being a Victorian team). A fine? What a joke. I saw the Green Turd's kick to the face as deliberate and cruel and brings the game into disrepute. He is such a good player that he doesn't need to stoop to this.

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                    • KTigers
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 2499

                      #25
                      I'd imagine Carey is right on this one. But as this "policy" was extremely helpful to us in the week before the 2005 GF we
                      probably shouldn't get too worked up about Toby G "getting off".


                      Originally posted by Matty10
                      Was it Wayne Carey who said that star players get treated lightly by the Tribunal and MRP in the lead up to the finals?

                      I am not sure if Greene qualifies as a star, but he is certainly an important player for GWS.

                      It seems like a soft outcome (and inconsistent when the Parker penalty is examined). I suppose the lack of consistency is what makes the MRP so consistent.


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                      • Matty10
                        Senior Player
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 1331

                        #26
                        Originally posted by KTigers
                        I'd imagine Carey is right on this one. But as this "policy" was extremely helpful to us in the week before the 2005 GF we probably shouldn't get too worked up about Toby G "getting off".
                        We probably would have taken the AFL to court (like we did with Dunkley before the 1996 GF). It tends to get a little crazy at that time of the year.


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                        • Hotpotato
                          Senior Player
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 2271

                          #27
                          The "studs down campaign" is very much in the ascendancy , especially by the players .

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