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  • Beerman
    Regular in the Side
    • Oct 2010
    • 823

    Buddy's performance pretty much off the charts as far as Champion Data are concerned. More than twice as good as his 2-year average, which is already pretty impressive.

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    • bloodspirit
      Clubman
      • Apr 2015
      • 4448

      Glad to see Horse give recognition to the players in his presser - they deserve it and he blames them in the same measure when they fail. He's not a huge tactician, rather he coaches a simple, effective style and then works to get the most out of his whole playing group. The Swans' approach puts a lot of responsibility on to the players and happily the culture and the leadership is strong enough to sustain this. While the game plan relies on us doing the fundamentals well, it's not without sophistication and we adapt well - playing tempo footy when we need to, sometimes playing more direct other times switching back and forth, looking for an opening more patiently.

      The Age/realfooty has published Daisy Pearce's AA side: Daisy Pearce's 2017 All-Australian AFL team . I think it's a pretty good side. Interestingly she selected Horse as the coach. The other point of interest are her comments about playing one or two ruckmen (which I think will be music to Ludwig's ears as he has been saying the same all year):

      I've picked my team based on the premise that if it did, it would need to be equipped for the game's current trends. I'll use the ruck conundrum as an example. There have been a number of outstanding ruckmen in season 2017, making it difficult to pick one. The temptation is there to select two and have one rotate forward or off the bench but the high-intensity modern game just doesn't allow it. Coaches with multiple ruck options at their disposal have seemingly agonised over it all year.

      Not at all likely but, given the rucks injury travails last night, any hope yet for Naismith/Aliir rucking combo? I think we'll continue to play two rucks although it continues to be difficult to pick which.
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      • AB Swannie
        Senior Player
        • Mar 2017
        • 1579

        Originally posted by Beerman
        Buddy's performance pretty much off the charts as far as Champion Data are concerned. More than twice as good as his 2-year average, which is already pretty impressive.
        According to that same graph, Mills had his career best game.

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        • Beerman
          Regular in the Side
          • Oct 2010
          • 823

          PS. the final result would have been no surprise to Champion data who had daylight between the two clubs - the worst 22 we have selected this year was significantly better than their best 22.

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          (Black is the range of teams we have selected this year, green is the sides selected this week, yellow is the sides last week).

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          • Nico
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 11332

            Originally posted by goswannies
            Loved seeing Hewett trying to hand off to Buddy late in the game to try (unsuccessfully) & give him another one

            But one thing I don't understand ... Buddy is allowed to run across George's wasn't he? Just not the Carlton player? If that's true, why couldn't George handball to Buddy (ie play on)? I know that Buddy usually runs around the back (away from the man on the mark) but the Blues would have been looking for that. Or have the rules changed since I played (which was a long time ago, I must admit).
            Pretty sure no one can run between the player and the mark. That is why players always run around the back to take a handball.
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            • grarmy
              Warming the Bench
              • Aug 2010
              • 406

              Originally posted by Daisi
              ?..Wonderful game by Franklin and seriously one of the best individual performances I have ever seen. ( member for over 20 years now.)
              Terrific performance from Lance. But for spine chilling, OMG moments, you can't beat those Tony Lockett vignettes.
              "Play like you can’t lose."

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              • Beerman
                Regular in the Side
                • Oct 2010
                • 823

                Originally posted by Nico
                Pretty sure no one can run between the player and the mark. That is why players always run around the back to take a handball.
                I always thought the team with the free kick could run through, but I just checked the rules and here's what it says:
                16.1.2 Protected Area
                The Protected Area is a corridor which extends from 10 metres either
                side of The Mark to 10 metres either side of, and 5-metre arc behind,
                the Player with the football, as illustrated in Diagram 2. No Player shall
                enter and remain in the Protected Area unless the field Umpire calls
                ?Play On? or the Player from the opposing Team is accompanying or
                following within 2 metres of their opponent. Any Player caught in
                the Protected Area must make every endeavour to clear the
                Protected Area immediately.

                Key words here would be "no player". I think that rule is generally applied fairly leniently in allowing players on the same team as the kicker to cross to the other side of the mark, but in the case of Buddy it was a bit too blatant.

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                • Hotpotato
                  Senior Player
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2264

                  Which one was Buddy's best goal:

                  His roving off the pack with Sam and Will to get the ball on his boot in one movement and he still gets the left to right signature curl to nail it was mine.

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                  • Beerman
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 823

                    Originally posted by bloodspirit
                    Not at all likely but, given the rucks injury travails last night, any hope yet for Naismith/Aliir rucking combo? I think we'll continue to play two rucks although it continues to be difficult to pick which.
                    I did have a wry smile last night when, after this forum spent much of the week pouring scorn on the idea of worrying about in-game injuries to ruckmen, that both our ruckmen should go down injured and blues should come back into it as a consequence.

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                    • Beerman
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 823

                      Originally posted by Hotpotato
                      Which one was Buddy's best goal:

                      His roving off the pack with Sam and Will to get the ball on his boot in one movement and he still gets the left to right signature curl to nail it was mine.
                      Easily the back-heel for me. Best goal since Jude Bolton's kick did a 90-degree bounce in front of the behind posts and went through for a goal and Roos threw the empty jelly-snakes packet away in disbelief and disgust that someone else had finished them.

                      It just goes to show that some days you are hot and when you are, everything goes your way.

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                      • royboy42
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 2076

                        Originally posted by Beerman
                        Easily the back-heel for me. Best goal since Jude Bolton's kick did a 90-degree bounce in front of the behind posts and went through for a goal and Roos threw the empty jelly-snakes packet away in disbelief and disgust that someone else had finished them.

                        It just goes to show that some days you are hot and when you are, everything goes your way.
                        Jude's was amazing Jude Bolton | Footy Bounces at Right Angle | AFL 2010 Sydney v Western Bulldogs Round 21 - YouTube

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                        • Blood Fever
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4041

                          Originally posted by Hotpotato
                          Which one was Buddy's best goal:

                          His roving off the pack with Sam and Will to get the ball on his boot in one movement and he still gets the left to right signature curl to nail it was mine.

                          Easily his best goal. Ball landed many rows back in the crowd. Off one step, split the middle and travelled over 50 metres. Unreal!

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                          • liz
                            Veteran
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16744

                            Definitely number 10.

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                            • dejavoodoo44
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 8516

                              Originally posted by Blood Fever
                              Easily his best goal. Ball landed many rows back in the crowd. Off one step, split the middle and travelled over 50 metres. Unreal!
                              Yes, I did like the role reversal of Buddy roving off Willy the Kid. But possibly what I enjoyed most about his goals, was the sound that was being made when boot struck ball. It was a real space filling thump, that suggested that the ball could not have been struck any better. The subsequent flight of the ball also suggested that.
                              Actually, the force with which he was striking the ball, made me wonder; if you burst the ball, do you get to retake your kick? Or is it just bad luck?

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                              • ugg
                                Can you feel it?
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 15963

                                10 was the best because I went from cursing Towers for not kicking to Buddy's advantage to jumping out of my seat the next moment
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