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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    #16
    If a Rohan / Motlop or Rohan/ Menzel trade came up, I'd grab it with both hands.

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    • Markwebbos
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      #17
      Originally posted by barry
      If a Rohan / Motlop or Rohan/ Menzel trade came up, I'd grab it with both hands.
      Wow! That's harsh. Motlop is a free agent so we can have him for nothing. He played well for once last night.

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      • barry
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 8499

        #18
        Originally posted by Markwebbos
        Wow! That's harsh. Motlop is a free agent so we can have him for nothing. He played well for once last night.
        I thought I was being a bit harsh on Geelong. Motlop is the exact opposite to Rohan. Flaky in the H&A, good in finals.

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        • Blood Fever
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 4051

          #19
          Originally posted by barry
          I thought I was being a bit harsh on Geelong. Motlop is the exact opposite to Rohan. Flaky in the H&A, good in finals.
          Motlop has been an embarrassment in finals especially last year's prelim. That's why he is/was on trade table. Played ok last night but still runs around in circles when he gets it.

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            #20
            Sobering facts:

            AFL Tables - Gary Rohan - Stats - Statistics

            He's had 1 game in his entire career of over 20 disposals.

            Warning, don't look at his finals stats if you have a weak heart.

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            • stevoswan
              Veterans List
              • Sep 2014
              • 8573

              #21
              Originally posted by Blood Fever
              Where should he be played, either as a Swan or at another club?
              HFF or in the reserves.......

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              • rojo
                Opti-pessi-misti
                • Mar 2009
                • 1103

                #22
                Listening to a player from another club being interviewed not long ago I heard him describe the half-forward position as the graveyard spot. I also heard Isaac Heeney say in an interview that he didn't like playing up forward because it was too easy to 'get lost' there. So Gary's role up forward is not one for racking up possessions.

                I noticed last night that he was always behind his opponent as though he was solely concentrating on defence (not too successfully) not looking to provide a lead, but I don't think anyone kicking into the forward line was looking for someone on the lead!

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                • stevoswan
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 8573

                  #23
                  Enough is enough

                  From the above stats table we can see that Gary's career highest average disposals per game come against the Suns (15.5), Lions (15), Tigers (14) and Demons (13.25), hardly stellar opposition.

                  Against likely future finals opponents in the Crows (6.33), GWS (10.7), Cats (9.5), Hawks (7.8), W.C (8.5), and P.A (7.7) his average disposal stats tail off pretty badly.

                  At the home of the GF he averages 9.2 disposals per game. Even at home at the SCG he averages only 10.36 per game.

                  Tackling wise, this year has been his best, averaging just over 3 per game (not counting the three completed games at the start of 2012 before the leg break in round 4, where he averaged 5 per game). In all other seasons he's averaged under 3 per game and as low as 2.1 per game (2011 and 2015). So, while he can do the occasional good chase down tackle, he's hardly a tackling machine.

                  If these figures tell us anything, it's that if he doesn't address his pre-big game nerves with a sports psychologist soon and get his shiit together, he's never going to help us win a premiership......sad but true.

                  I sometimes think if he never broke his leg, he could well be a lauded champion right now. His irresistible form in those first three games of 2012 was as brilliant as it was exciting.
                  Last edited by Meg; 16 September 2017, 08:38 PM. Reason: Paras again Stevo.

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                  • Swansongster
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1264

                    #24
                    IMHO Gaz is today's unfortunate whipping boy. He plays a role and has got the job done on many occasions.

                    I'll have him in my team thankyou.

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                    • Matty10
                      Senior Player
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1331

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Swansongster
                      IMHO Gaz is today's unfortunate whipping boy. He plays a role and has got the job done on many occasions.

                      I'll have him in my team thankyou.
                      I'm with you on this.


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                      • CureTheSane
                        Carpe Noctem
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 5032

                        #26
                        I think the case against Rohan is reasonable.
                        Or at least, calling for his head isn't totally unreasonable.
                        The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                        • Matty10
                          Senior Player
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 1331

                          #27
                          Originally posted by CureTheSane
                          I think the case against Rohan is reasonable.
                          Or at least, calling for his head isn't totally unreasonable.
                          Perhaps not, but do you think that he is the reason that we lost against Geelong?

                          Do you also think that Rohan is incapable of helping the Swans win a premiership in the future?


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                          • The Runner
                            Regular in the Side
                            • May 2017
                            • 718

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Matty10
                            I'm with you on this
                            Seriously? His finals record is pathetic. If he can't deliver in a final, why persist? It's not going to change.
                            This rubbish about "he's a 10 possession player" is just stupid. It's as simple as "does he impact the game". In big matches.. no, he does not. So find someone who will.

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              #29
                              If it was one game that was the problem it wouldn't be an issue. It's his whole body of work.

                              Enough chances. Trade him while he has value.

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                              • CureTheSane
                                Carpe Noctem
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 5032

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Matty10
                                Perhaps not, but do you think that he is the reason that we lost against Geelong?

                                Do you also think that Rohan is incapable of helping the Swans win a premiership in the future?


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                                No, and no.

                                I'm just in the very small camp where we are open to different opinions.
                                The other two camps are "Rohan must go" and "are they crazy saying Rohan must go, I love it when he runs fast and kicks goals"
                                Looking at it pragmatically, I think they are others who could fill his role and do it better.
                                Sometimes players don't click with game plans, or coaching methods for that matter. Maybe he'd be a real superstar somewhere else.
                                That would make it kind of selfish to restrain him in the role he plays here.

                                I am however happy to keep him on board, but he shouldn't just walk in to a game because he can be an excitement machine.
                                The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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