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  • Blood Fever
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 4050

    #46
    Originally posted by The Runner
    It was a little odd that Kirk was the forwards coach. A great footy brain, but you can't really compete with someone of Stevie's quality, and understanding the modern game so well.
    Footy has changed so much in the last 6-8 years, it's almost unrecognisable strategically.

    The good coaches, particularly Clarkson, are propped up by a strong modern coaching panel.

    Stevie will add plenty to this panel. Both as a fresh set of eyes, but also from his knowledge of how to play footy in 2018.
    Hope you're right. Kirk was forwards coach last year when we made GF so Stevie has a high bar to get over.

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    • Blood Fever
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 4050

      #47
      Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
      Great news. I haven't been satisfied with the standard of our match-day coaching for some time now. We frequently get out-coached by the good coaches and our forward structure doesn't seem to be working. Although I would have thought that the bulk of that responsibility would fall on Horses shoulders, injecting some new blood can only improve this. The logical coaching positions will be; SJ - Forward coach, Kirky - midfield coach and Tadgh/Josh/Rhyce? - back coach.

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      I think we do need that crap. Our players, supporters and club play too nice. It's time we got a little &%^ into us.
      Who out coached us game day? Did we outcoach anyone when we won 15/17?

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      • Heydon
        Registered User
        • Apr 2017
        • 10

        #48
        As of ten minutes ago I am no longer a Swans supporter. I will not support a club that hired Stevie J, no matter how brilliant a footy brain he has, no matter how personable he is off the field. He set a bad example on the field by his habitual dirty tactics and if that is what is perceived as necessary to win, then I want no part of it. Goodbye.

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        • bodgie
          Regular in the Side
          • Jul 2007
          • 501

          #49
          I'm not convinced about this assumption that a player who excels in a position is going to be a great coach for that position, it seems intuitive, but a lot of players are started down back so they can learn how to play forward etc. I assumed Kirk was made forwards coach so he could teach them how to lock the ball in the forward 50. But that doesn't always help when you need to kick quick goals against the run of play. You can only work that out inside the coaching team I guess.

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          • Industrial Fan
            Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
            • Aug 2006
            • 3318

            #50
            Originally posted by Heydon
            As of ten minutes ago I am no longer a Swans supporter. I will not support a club that hired Stevie J, no matter how brilliant a footy brain he has, no matter how personable he is off the field. He set a bad example on the field by his habitual dirty tactics and if that is what is perceived as necessary to win, then I want no part of it. Goodbye.
            lol

            Is that you boddo?
            He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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            • CureTheSane
              Carpe Noctem
              • Jan 2003
              • 5032

              #51
              Originally posted by Heydon
              As of ten minutes ago I am no longer a Swans supporter. I will not support a club that hired Stevie J, no matter how brilliant a footy brain he has, no matter how personable he is off the field. He set a bad example on the field by his habitual dirty tactics and if that is what is perceived as necessary to win, then I want no part of it. Goodbye.
              Last edited by RogueSwan; 3 October 2017, 12:17 PM.
              The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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              • KTigers
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2012
                • 2499

                #52
                Originally posted by Heydon
                As of ten minutes ago I am no longer a Swans supporter. I will not support a club that hired Stevie J, no matter how brilliant a footy brain he has, no matter how personable he is off the field. He set a bad example on the field by his habitual dirty tactics and if that is what is perceived as necessary to win, then I want no part of it. Goodbye.
                As opposed to those pillars of virtue, David Rhys Jones, Plugger and Barry Hall, all of whom actually played for the Swans for a
                considerable time. Even the Bud is up to 13 citations. It's a bit slippery up on that high horse.

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                • Bloody Hell
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3085

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Heydon
                  As of ten minutes ago I am no longer a Swans supporter. I will not support a club that hired Stevie J, no matter how brilliant a footy brain he has, no matter how personable he is off the field. He set a bad example on the field by his habitual dirty tactics and if that is what is perceived as necessary to win, then I want no part of it. Goodbye.
                  Bye!

                  Great appointment, as is Tadhg.
                  The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                  • The Runner
                    Regular in the Side
                    • May 2017
                    • 718

                    #54
                    Originally posted by bodgie
                    I'm not convinced about this assumption that a player who excels in a position is going to be a great coach for that position, it seems intuitive, but a lot of players are started down back so they can learn how to play forward etc. I assumed Kirk was made forwards coach so he could teach them how to lock the ball in the forward 50. But that doesn't always help when you need to kick quick goals against the run of play. You can only work that out inside the coaching team I guess.
                    Quality of player doesn't necessarily have a correlation to quality of coach.
                    But experts in their craft can teach novices how to perform certain tasks. Dermie is an amazing teacher about leading as a forward and creating space. Plugger had a noticeable impact on the routines of our forwards - Reid and Papley in particular.
                    Stevie J is pigeon holed as a human highlight reel. He also coordinated a forward line in a dominant period of time.
                    If you watch him live, you see a player who moves chess pieces live to create opportunities. Often he was the beneficiary - but when you know you can do it better than anyone else, who not play to your strengths?

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                    • grarmy
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 406

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Ludwig
                      There's a popular dish with foreigners around here. It's an Irish stew with hot chili sauce called a Thai Kennelly.
                      Hahaha. That was really funny.
                      "Play like you can’t lose."

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                      • stevoswan
                        Veterans List
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 8559

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Heydon
                        As of ten minutes ago I am no longer a Swans supporter. I will not support a club that hired Stevie J, no matter how brilliant a footy brain he has, no matter how personable he is off the field. He set a bad example on the field by his habitual dirty tactics and if that is what is perceived as necessary to win, then I want no part of it. Goodbye.
                        What the? You're devotion to our club obviously runs deep. See ya......

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                        • ugg
                          Can you feel it?
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15970

                          #57
                          Laidler and Kennelly to be joint NEAFL coaches

                          Laidler: Omission 'a blessing in disguise' - sydneyswans.com.au
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                          • Mel_C
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 4470

                            #58
                            Just saw on the swans site that Francou has departed. They have confirmed that:
                            - Forward Coach is Johnson
                            - Midfield & Stoppages Coach is Kirk
                            - Defence Coach is Shaw

                            Sent from my HTC_PN071 using Tapatalk

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                            • S.S. Bleeder
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 2165

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Mel_C
                              Just saw on the swans site that Francou has departed. They have confirmed that:
                              - Forward Coach is Johnson
                              - Midfield & Stoppages Coach is Kirk
                              - Defence Coach is Shaw

                              Sent from my HTC_PN071 using Tapatalk
                              Yay. Just as I was hoping.
                              Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                              Great news. I haven't been satisfied with the standard of our match-day coaching for some time now. We frequently get out-coached by the good coaches and our forward structure doesn't seem to be working. Although I would have thought that the bulk of that responsibility would fall on Horses shoulders, injecting some new blood can only improve this. The logical coaching positions will be; SJ - Forward coach, Kirky - midfield coach and Tadgh/Josh/Rhyce? - back coach.

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                              • royboy42
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 2078

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                                I knew that and tried to spell it incorrectly for the same reason
                                Ummmm...me too.

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