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  • MattW
    Veterans List
    • May 2011
    • 4220

    Originally posted by ugg
    But wasn't Cox meant to be a replacement for Dew? So we're still one assistant short from the 2017 group.
    Was Taubert part of that coaching group? Certainly wasn't part of the match-day committee. I noticed Longmire mentioned he worked part-time. Perhaps more of a consultant. I also recall Harley (I think?) saying the structure might be different next year.

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    • Billericay
      Regular in the Side
      • May 2013
      • 712

      This wholesale level of change makes me think the Swans have conducted a review in secret as a result of our 0-6 start and are now implementing its recommendations. I wonder if they haven't quietly moved on some of the assistants? Or am I just a wild conspiracy theorist?

      Taubert was part time, Big Cox is full time, so we are effectively down part of an assistant coach. I assume Dean will cover part of Dew's role, and part of Taubert's role, with Kirk / Blakey covering the rest.

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      • The Big Cat
        On the veteran's list
        • Apr 2006
        • 2356

        Obviously the gathering we saw photos of with Taubo and a gaggle of ruckmen was his whispering farewell.
        Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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        • stevoswan
          Veterans List
          • Sep 2014
          • 8560

          Originally posted by Billericay
          This wholesale level of change makes me think the Swans have conducted a review in secret as a result of our 0-6 start and are now implementing its recommendations. I wonder if they haven't quietly moved on some of the assistants? Or am I just a wild conspiracy theorist?

          Taubert was part time, Big Cox is full time, so we are effectively down part of an assistant coach. I assume Dean will cover part of Dew's role, and part of Taubert's role, with Kirk / Blakey covering the rest.
          It is intriguing and as sad as it is to see the 'ruck whisperer' go (and I think that was his decision), I'm actually quite excited by all these changes. I have been, like a lot of others here at RWO, preying for dynamic and adaptable game plans and versatility in the coaches box as well as on the field. I also think, in Cox and Johnson, we have brought in some serious talent and experience. Our list has so much talent, we should be dominating like the Hawks did.
          Last edited by stevoswan; 11 October 2017, 09:29 PM.

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16778

            Originally posted by Billericay
            This wholesale level of change makes me think the Swans have conducted a review in secret as a result of our 0-6 start and are now implementing its recommendations. I wonder if they haven't quietly moved on some of the assistants? Or am I just a wild conspiracy theorist?

            Taubert was part time, Big Cox is full time, so we are effectively down part of an assistant coach. I assume Dean will cover part of Dew's role, and part of Taubert's role, with Kirk / Blakey covering the rest.
            I imagine it's an ongoing process. I don't think there was anything about 2017 that screamed out for wholesale changes, but most organisations understand the need to get fresh blood from time to time and to rotate people around to mix ideas up. And most individuals realise they need a change from time to time, to get new ideas and challenge themselves in different ways.

            While the changes this year have probably been more extensive than in past seasons, they're also just part of the ongoing rotation in coaching staff that we've seen over the years.

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            • The Big Cat
              On the veteran's list
              • Apr 2006
              • 2356

              Originally posted by stevoswan
              Our list has so much talent, we should be dominating like the Hawks did.
              .

              Are we sure we have this enormous talent or have we just had a tremendous coaching group which has squeezed every ounce out of an average group with a handful of stars?
              Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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              • RogueSwan
                McVeigh for Brownlow
                • Apr 2003
                • 4602

                Originally posted by ugg
                Taubert retires. The timing is interesting, wonder whether that means Cox will become the ruck coach after all.

                Taubert Retires - sydneyswans.com.au
                Originally posted by RogueSwan
                And they are coaching in the positions they played, assuming Cox will take on the rucks.
                Called it, sort of

                Probably explains the insta photo from a week or so ago where all the big boys were out having a beer with Taubert

                @taubo

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                • bloodspirit
                  Clubman
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 4448

                  Originally posted by RogueSwan
                  Called it, sort of

                  Probably explains the insta photo from a week or so ago where all the big boys were out having a beer with Taubert

                  @taubo

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                  I'm sorry not to see Mike Pyke there. I wonder if he'd be considered to replace Taubo given that he came to the game late. He succeeded precisely because he is smart and took on board all that the coaches told him. Anyway he might not be interested. Although I've seen him at games and he has been referred to in some Swans news, I get the impression he has not been involved with the game in a footy/coaching type way. And I seem to recall he moved into finance. Then again he does continue to hang out with a lot of Swans. He was at the NEAFL prelim with Jared Crouch and their families.

                  Anyway, as regards the larger question of turnover in the coaching ranks, I'm all in favour. I like having Horse as head coach and I'm delighted to have some fresh blood.

                  And I congratulate the club because I'm sure they facilitated the turnover, although I'm curious about to what degree and how and when. Maybe they just indicated halfway through the season that they were looking at turning over some coaching staff and encouraged all the assistant coaches to consider other opportunities. (Possibly more than expected took this as a cue, but I don't this is a bad thing.)

                  There's definitely a story to be told here and I'd love to hear it. Not sure who in the media can be trusted to report it well. Probably Andrew Wu is the best we'll do. Most of the heavier hitters don't cover Sydney or have the connections here.
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                  • liz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16778

                    Maybe Pykey was the one taking the photo.

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                    • Meg
                      Go Swannies!
                      Site Admin
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 4828

                      Originally posted by liz
                      Maybe Pykey was the one taking the photo.
                      Pyke was there sitting to the left. I saw a photo (or possibly video, can't remember which) and you could just glimpse him. So he was either out of the photo frame or taking the photo.

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                      • RogueSwan
                        McVeigh for Brownlow
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 4602

                        Originally posted by liz
                        Maybe Pykey was the one taking the photo.
                        Nah, it was Ludwig. He was using it as an excuse to get another shot of TomD for his collection.
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                        • Ludwig
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          Originally posted by RogueSwan
                          Nah, it was Ludwig. He was using it as an excuse to get another shot of TomD for his collection.
                          I also took this closeup of my 2 favourites. I'm having it framed and put in my bedroom.

                          Tom and Kurt.jpg

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                          • bloodspirit
                            Clubman
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 4448

                            I see that George Stone is joining Dew at the Suns: George Stone & Shaun Hart join the GC SUNS - goldcoastfc.com.au. When did he leave the Swans and what has he been doing since?
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                            • ugg
                              Can you feel it?
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15970

                              He was working with Roosy at Melbourne. Got a few mentions in Paul?s latest book. Not sure whether he was given the boot by Goodwin
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                              • Markwebbos
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                                • Jul 2016
                                • 7186

                                Goodwin seems to have a very different philosophy to Roos. Roos was so much about relationships with his players and treating them right. I can?t imagine Roos treating Watts the way Goodwin has.

                                Stone would have worked with Dew at the Swans

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