2018 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Thunder Shaker]

Yes, if we don't match, they get the player

The scenario is what happens if we do match. The difference between picks 2 and 3 is significant.

Our point-value picks are 26, 33, 38, 39, 40 and 70, even though pick 70 only has 39 points.

If we match pick 2, we give up 26, 33 and 38, and pick 39 gets bumped down to about pick 57. Our first pick becomes pick 36 (we have pick 40 as well which gets promoted four places up the order). Picks would be about 36 (old 40), 53 (39) and 67 (70).

If we match pick 3, we give up 26, 33 and 38, and pick 39 gets bumped down as well, but only by about two places, to about pick 41 (it's only making up about 30 points). Indeed, pick 39 actually gets promoted. We would end up with 36 (old 40), 38 (old 39), and 67 (70).

The actual pick values may be a little off, so treat this as a rough calculation.

Note the difference with the second pick here, pick 39, the one that gives up part of its value to match the bid. The difference between matching pick 2 and pick 3 is about 15 places in the draft, or almost a full round in the draft. In this hypothetical situation, the Suns could do this manipulation at no cost to them.

[Auntie.Gerald]

Taking bets

I say pick 9 Blakey

We can keep picks 26 and 33 up to approx pick 6 on draft day if Blakey is called out early

Ie we can use picks 38,39,40,67 etc for pick 6

[jono2707]

The volume of posting here in the last week and a half has been inversely proportional to what the club has actually achieved thus far.

A grade of D minus so far on our trade period.

[rb4x]

AG The way it will work is that if Blakey is nominated at pick 9 then it is our pick 26 that is used first and then 33 and so on as Liz has explained more than once. We cannot use our bottom end picks to match points on Blakey but must start from our highest value first. The only way that as it stands at present that we can use pick 26 is if Blakey is not nominated until after that pick which is totally inconceivable. We still have pick trading available right up to the moment that Blakey is nominated but the moment he is called then it is too late.

[Markwebbos]

Duryea is going to the Dogs

[troyjones2525]

Official. Tom Scully to Hawthorn for a future 4th round pick... the pick they got given by GC for taking Scrimshaw off their hands for a future 3rd round pick... what a joke...

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[ISIBIDBI]

AG The way it will work is that if Blakey is nominated at pick 9 then it is our pick 26 that is used first and then 33 and so on as Liz has explained more than once. We cannot use our bottom end picks to match points on Blakey but must start from our highest value first. The only way that as it stands at present that we can use pick 26 is if Blakey is not nominated until after that pick which is totally inconceivable. We still have pick trading available right up to the moment that Blakey is nominated but the moment he is called then it is too late.

From my understanding as soon as Blakey is bid on - say it is pick 8 so we would just have to use picks 26 and 33 to match it, then if it gets to a stage in the draft where a player we rate really highly is still available we could package up a combination of 38/39/40 to the club on the clock and depending on their needs they may be willing to trade down for more points.

[longmile]

Official. Tom Scully to Hawthorn for a future 4th round pick... the pick they got given by GC for taking Scrimshaw off their hands for a future 3rd round pick... what a joke...

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[MattW]

Duryea is going to the Dogs

And Scully to Hawthorn, both for a future 4th round pick. So, Hawthorn basically swapped Duryea for Scully plus a little bit of change (presuming Hawthorn finish above Bulldogs next year).

[dejavoodoo44]

Hmm, Hawthorn trade their future third round pick, for a former number seven pick and Gold Coast's future fourth round pick. They then trade that fourth round pick for a former number one pick.
So essentially, they got two players, who were respectively taken at one and seven, for a third round pick.
Seems to be a real fetid stench coming from those dealings, doesn't there?

[Melbourne_Blood]

Well at least Tom Harley’s performance might take a bit of the heat off Horse ! Where’s the Harley must go thread !


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[Melbourne_Blood]

Knocked back by Langdon , Vandenberg and Duryea! Lowering the standards and still no luck ! That’s rough ! The swans must feel like me in my early 20’s!


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[Auntie.Gerald]

Guys I don’t agree

What ur saying is correct only if we are still holding 26 and 33 etc

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If we use pick 26 and 33 tomorrow in a trade by wed night this week ie tomorrow then we will have 38,39,40,67 for Blakey and this rounds out to approx pick 6

if he goes at pick 5 or 4,3,2,1 then deficit

This is the point I have made ever since we got the split of new picks

Trading is not over yet

[Legs Akimbo]

A grade of D minus so far on our trade period.

Personally, I think you are being generous.

[Untamed Snark]

If homo sapiens had evolved in Victoria instead of Africa, we would have never ventured north of the Murray River.

They'd also have invented the espresso machine before the wheel.