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  • Aprilbr
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2016
    • 1803

    So Robinson at 184 cm is going to punch hit in the ruck? I can?t believe that! Ruckman have not been that short since the era of Jack Dyer.


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    • Nico
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 11339

      Originally posted by barry
      Allir might as well look at his options with other clubs. Seriously!
      Agree.

      On Newman; his disposal has dropped off a lot but boy he at least gets the footy. Can't say the same for Robinson.
      http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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      • Nico
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 11339

        Originally posted by ernie koala
        I agree...I've found him to be predictably ordinary in his AFL games so far....Maybe a stint in the ruck will be his making.....wishful thinking more likely.

        Fox over Newman is an interesting call....Please give Jack a tagging role.
        But Ernie, Robinson is 5 foot nothing. He won't even come up to the knee caps of the Geelong rucks. Like throwing cream puffs at the town hall. You 'aint going to move it.
        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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        • Steve
          Regular in the Side
          • Jan 2003
          • 676

          We may as well take the time to get players right at this time of the year - the last couple of seasons have shown it now means much more to just get to September heathy and firing, rather than grind the whole year to finish top 2 or 4.

          This week feels like it did heading into the 2015 final against Freo, and we nearly won that.

          It doesn't seem a great plan nevertheless to either overwork Sinclair and/or totally concede the ruck contests, and the concept of playing a small forward line doesn't just click into place - but we don't have too many options really.

          I'm sure it's not the attitude internally, but the whole early announcement of the outs with Buddy and Hanners did have a bit of a depressing, white flag feel to it. Particularly when hearing Selwood got off his suspension.

          But at least this week the one thing we won't be is totally predictable.


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          • Ralph Dawg
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2018
            • 1729

            Teams playing a ?small? forward line still have one big target. Think Jack Riewold at tigers. At very least, I feel we need someone to bring the ball to ground and I can?t see anyone to fill that role in the selected team. It?s a big ask to expect the small forwards, so use to having Buddy around to now win their own ball and create their own scoring opportunities. If it pays off, this could be the making of our team. If it falls flat, we potentially will get caned. I really hope Horse and the brainstrust know what they are doing.............

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            • Faunac8
              Senior Player
              • Mar 2014
              • 1548

              Who ever would have thought this time last year that we would have been lamenting Dean being out with an injury.? At least the odds are against us and as we do have a reasonable recent record at the cattery I am hoping to be pleasantly surprised.

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              • aguy
                Senior Player
                • Mar 2014
                • 1324

                Originally posted by Aprilbr
                So Robinson at 184 cm is going to punch hit in the ruck? I can?t believe that! Ruckman have not been that short since the era of Jack Dyer.


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                I mentioned about Robinson possibly rucking simply because I noticed him doing it for a quarter in a JLT match. That could mean absolutely nothing.

                It could be an interesting ploy if they just didn?t plan on contesting any ruck contests. I don?t mean not nominate as then their ruck could just catch and then dispose of the ball. But we will prob plan on not jumping and just making sure their ruck can?t take clean possession. After that we have to rove from their rucks

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                • 707
                  Veterans List
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6204

                  There must be a ruck and a forward plan given the outs and which ins they chose.

                  All those complaining about Horse not having a plan B and being too stubborn to change from his set ways, well shut up, because he's really gone radical now!

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                  • lwjoyner
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 952

                    the worst team selection for I dunno how long. Johnno must have some tricks up his sleeve for the fwds against his old side. No big guys on fed line you have to get it to the ground for smaals to do something and the way we kick to them (the fwds) has been appalling doesn't Longmire see that. Robbo will never make it but we keep trying him.
                    Wahts wrong with at least giving aa or Cameron a go 0 goals at least loss.

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                    • barracuda
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 551

                      To be fair to Robinson he has always had to play the defensive half forward in the seniors. This means you basically run up and down the ground trying to block the opposition running half backs.
                      I hope he gets a chance to play in his correct position which is midfield. He certainly smashes that position in the neafl with more than 35 disposals a game so far this year.

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                      • Blood Fever
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4050

                        Originally posted by Aprilbr
                        So Robinson at 184 cm is going to punch hit in the ruck? I can?t believe that! Ruckman have not been that short since the era of Jack Dyer.


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                        Parker is a possibility to relieve Sinclair. Has contested ruck before. May give Sinclair a chance to rest forward at times.

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                        • MattW
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                          • May 2011
                          • 4218

                          Originally posted by Blood Fever
                          Parker is a possibility to relieve Sinclair. Has contested ruck before. May give Sinclair a chance to rest forward at times.
                          Yes. Looking at the stats, Parker easily has the second most career hitouts of the 22 who will play on Saturday, with 73 (Robinson has 3 career hitouts). I guess it depends how competitive they want to be in the ruck - you'd think Parker would be more likely to win a tap but it might be at the expense of his contribution elsewhere (or injury).

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                          • Blood Fever
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 4050

                            Originally posted by MattW
                            Yes. Looking at the stats, Parker easily has the second most career hitouts of the 22 who will play on Saturday, with 73 (Robinson has 3 career hitouts). I guess it depends how competitive they want to be in the ruck - you'd think Parker would be more likely to win a tap but it might be at the expense of his contribution elsewhere (or injury).
                            Probably wouldn't use him at centre bounces. Still could be a late change. If anyone came in, surely would have to be Allir.

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                            • Markwebbos
                              Veterans List
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 7186

                              I think the plan must be to ?turn? Blicavs and have him tap to us. Games first double agent.

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                              • Steve
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 676

                                Planning to completely concede the ruck contest is better than going with someone who will compete but get badly beaten. Then at least all your midfielders are setting up to rove the opposition ruckman, and/or blanket their midfielders at ground level - and you just need someone manning the opposition ruckman to force them to tap the ball (ie. prevent them from just taking the ball out of the ruck, they can't do that if someone is right there waiting to tackle them).

                                We're not skilled enough, and not in good enough form in any case, to play a chip-it-around possession game, so I can't see how it will work unless Sinclair plays forward, being that lead-up option to the wings to provide contests, taking the centre bounces and then going back forward. Around the ground then a combination of players including Parker can be that defensive body at the ball-ups etc.

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