#AFL Round 9, Swans vs Freo, 7:25pm, SCG #AFLSwansDockers @sydneyswans

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  • Burra
    Warming the Bench
    • Mar 2008
    • 104

    #76
    Originally posted by Blue Sun
    Not seeing a lot of positivity in the thread despite the dominant performance! You guys are hard to please
    You just don't get it, do you?

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    • Hotpotato
      Senior Player
      • Jun 2014
      • 2261

      #77
      Originally posted by Blue Sun
      Not seeing a lot of positivity in the thread despite the dominant performance! You guys are hard to please
      Humans are by nature slow to praise and quick to criticise ....

      (You should meet my wife?s family !)
      And it?s proven on here on a weekly basis.

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      • cherub
        Warming the Bench
        • May 2010
        • 239

        #78
        Originally posted by Bill Posters
        So Jones got smashed in a contest in the centre of the ground and was on the ground for a bit. In a great show of sportsmanship one of the freo players - shorter guy with the tats who played pretty well - helped him up then stayed with him for an unusual amount of time because he was clearly concerned about him.

        Jones trotted off and got back into it. But I was touched by the sportsmanship displayed there.
        Michael Walters. He's actually a terrific player coming back from injury. Ross Lyon probably saved his career by sending him back to his WAFL club to meet team fitness standards a few years ago. That bit of tough love seems to have promoted his growth as a fine young man and footballer. He comes from the same street as Nicnat and Chris Yarran, so probably not an easy road.

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        • MattW
          Veterans List
          • May 2011
          • 4195

          #79
          Originally posted by cherub
          Michael Walters. He's actually a terrific player coming back from injury. Ross Lyon probably saved his career by sending him back to his WAFL club to meet team fitness standards a few years ago. That bit of tough love seems to have promoted his growth as a fine young man and footballer. He comes from the same street as Nicnat and Chris Yarran, so probably not an easy road.
          Well said - agreed.

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          • sprite
            Regular in the Side
            • Jan 2003
            • 813

            #80
            A good team effort, with everyone contributing.

            Overall did what was expected and won.
            sprite

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            • barry
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 8499

              #81
              Originally posted by liz
              Just watched the last quarter, and saw that Kennedy's strapping was immediately below the knee, not above it. Medial or posterior cruciate ligament instability?
              Below the knee usually means knee tendon tendonitis.

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              • Primmy
                Proud Tragic Swan
                • Apr 2008
                • 5970

                #82
                Originally posted by Bill Posters
                So Jones got smashed in a contest in the centre of the ground and was on the ground for a bit. In a great show of sportsmanship one of the freo players - shorter guy with the tats who played pretty well - helped him up then stayed with him for an unusual amount of time because he was clearly concerned about him.

                Jones trotted off and got back into it. But I was touched by the sportsmanship displayed there.
                This is something I particularly noticed. MW turned around and went back to Zak immediately, and called in the trainers for him, and waited until he was attended to. I've twitted to Freo to say thanks for the sportsmanship and attention shown.

                - - - Updated - - -

                Re the question about why Joey wasn't chaired off. It was Smooch's 200th for the Swans, it was Joey's 200 playing for the Swans - he's already had his cudos (swans plus hawkes games)
                If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16737

                  #83
                  Originally posted by cherub
                  Michael Walters. He's actually a terrific player coming back from injury. Ross Lyon probably saved his career by sending him back to his WAFL club to meet team fitness standards a few years ago. That bit of tough love seems to have promoted his growth as a fine young man and footballer. He comes from the same street as Nicnat and Chris Yarran, so probably not an easy road.
                  Originally posted by MattW
                  Well said - agreed.
                  Thirded.

                  Walters is my favourite Dockers player by far, and quite probably my favourite non-Swans player across the entire competition. He was a bit rusty yesterday but still did his best to spark his team up forward. And he's developed from a young player who took time to adjust to the AFL system to one of the leaders at the Dockers. Would love to have him at Sydney, except that I think the Dockers need players like him more.

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    #84
                    Originally posted by barry
                    Players like ronke are doing the same job as him [Rohan] but better.
                    I do wonder whether the arrival of Ronke could see Gaz dropped.

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                    • chalbilto
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 1139

                      #85
                      No. Gaz does some amazing things e.g the mark he took last week against the hawks, running back which led to Ronke's last goal. He will never be a high possession accumulator but his tackling and speed especially in the forward half is superb.

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                      • Mel_C
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 4470

                        #86
                        Originally posted by stellation
                        Does anyone know where (if it's possible?) to get stats of time spent in various positions/parts of the ground?
                        I haven't used it this year but the AFL app had a heat map that shows which parts of the ground the players go. I think you have to pay for it but it's free if you are a Telstra customer.

                        Originally posted by liz
                        I noticed a broad band of white tape around Kennedy's thigh, just above the knee yesterday. Can't recall if it's been there in recent games. Seems to confirm that he's carrying some kind of injury, that would help explain why he's not been as dominant - consistently - as he usually is.
                        I think it was the North game where he injured it. It happened in the middle of the ground and he spent a lot of time down on the ground holding just below the knee to the side. I was worried at the time it was a bad injury.

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                        • Beerman
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 823

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Foreign Legion
                          McVeigh should go on another year the way he is going - balance, poise and precision.
                          I thought he was showing his age a few weeks ago, but he seems to be getting better with each game this season. He was very good.

                          Originally posted by stevoswan
                          Player stats and Fantasy points.

                          Sydney Swans
                          Player K H D M HO FF FA T G B AF
                          1 Jake Lloyd 26 15 41 15 0 0 0 1 1 0 163
                          2 Lance Franklin 17 2 19 9 0 3 0 2 3 1 112
                          3 Isaac Heeney 15 7 22 8 0 0 0 4 1 0 105
                          4 Jarrad McVeigh 20 11 31 6 0 1 0 0 0 0 101
                          5 Luke Parker 17 6 23 4 0 2 2 5 1 0 97
                          6 Harry Cunningham 14 7 21 9 0 0 0 3 0 1 96
                          7 Josh P. Kennedy 10 10 20 6 0 0 0 1 3 0 90
                          8 George Hewett 11 9 20 5 0 3 0 3 1 1 88
                          9 Dane Rampe 12 10 22 5 0 2 0 1 0 0 77
                          10 Oliver Florent 14 8 22 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 76
                          11 Ben Ronke 10 4 14 6 0 0 0 3 1 0 74
                          12 Heath Grundy 11 9 20 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 72
                          13 Will Hayward 11 5 16 9 0 0 3 0 1 1 68
                          14 Callum Mills 10 8 18 6 0 1 1 1 0 0 66
                          15 Nick Smith 6 15 21 6 0 1 1 0 0 0 64
                          15 Callum Sinclair 8 5 13 4 13 2 1 0 1 0 64
                          15 Tom Papley 8 10 18 3 0 0 2 1 2 1 64
                          18 Dan Hannebery 10 12 22 6 0 0 3 0 0 0 63
                          19 Kieren Jack 8 8 16 2 0 0 1 3 0 0 55
                          20 Zak Jones 7 5 12 3 0 1 0 2 0 0 49
                          21 Tom McCartin 5 4 9 2 0 0 1 0 2 1 39
                          22 Gary Rohan 4 3 7 2 1 0 1 4 0 0 38

                          Maybe Gary does need a stint in the two's......I didn't see the game, how was his pressure and one percenters?

                          I don't put too much store in the fantasy points, they don't factor enough of the quality of the contribution over the volume. Champion data points are a better indicator. For example, CD had Kennedy, Parker, McVeigh and Mills all ahead of Heeney, which is a much better reading of the game.

                          Having said that, Rohan was 4th worst Swans player in the CD ratings, so you could be right about him needing a break. He wasn't great.

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                          • neilfws
                            Senior Player
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1818

                            #88
                            Nice to sit back, relax and enjoy an easy win at least once a year. I don't think Freo are that bad a team, but we seem to have it over them in recent encounters.

                            Hannebery looked very underdone to say the least. Franklin clearly some way off his best too, but did enough trademark fun stuff. The replays of the elbow incident caused some oohs and aahs around the ground. I didn't get a good look but seems like there's a good case for incidental.

                            Enjoyed the "as big as Buddy's" cheer for Ronke at the start. More typical game from him this week, but still pretty good. Also enjoyed watching Sinclair, Heeney, Mills and getting a first good look at McCartin.

                            Rohan was never going to shine in that kind of game, he only does clutch match-winning stuff

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                            • Auntie.Gerald
                              Veterans List
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6474

                              #89
                              I?m just loving watching Ollie developing into a senior player - essential style of player for our 22 if we want to match the speed at which afl can be played at in 2018

                              Really enjoyed Ollie?s first half asa critical transition player
                              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                              • ScottH
                                It's Goodes to cheer!!
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 23665

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                                I?m just loving watching Ollie developing into a senior player - essential style of player for our 22 if we want to match the speed at which afl can be played at in 2018

                                Really enjoyed Ollie?s first half asa critical transition player
                                Agree.
                                He is coming on leaps and bounds in the middle of the ground.
                                Again, something I really only noticed last week at the MCG.
                                Very prominent, and full of confidence.

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