#AFL Round 12 Weekly Discussion Thread

[bloodspirit]

It is a very disturbing situation. Of all the clubs they are the ones that most need a priority pick but I don't know that it would be enough to help them. Maybe they should be moved to Tassie. Of course that won't happen. I wonder how Stuey Dew feels now.

[I?m-uninformed2]

For whatever reason, the GC got their early years wrong on two big counts - recruitment and culture.

Other than Lynch and May, they squandered all their early picks. Swallow is a good player, but not a great one for a no1.

And their culture was clearly problematic - from the suggestion of drugs during the Karmichael Hunt era - to other things more intangible that saw decent talent like O?Meara leave.

I can?t stand GWS, but they did a lot more right to set up potential success.

GC are just putrid.

[barry]

It is a very disturbing situation. Of all the clubs they are the ones that most need a priority pick but I don't know that it would be enough to help them. Maybe they should be moved to Tassie. Of course that won't happen. I wonder how Stuey Dew feels now.

I don't get how moving to tassie will help them on field?. Makes no sense.

Lynch had checked out. He's gone.

[Bloods05]

I don't get how moving to tassie will help them on field?. Makes no sense.

Lynch had checked out. He's gone.

A move to Tassie would be a move to somewhere that wants them.

[stevoswan]

Just reflecting on the round so far during the half time break in our match tonight and one thought keeps pervading...... I feel really sorry for Stuart Dew. The Suns should be dissolved.......for a team from Tassie.

PS: Oh, I see this has been well discussed already.

[barry]

A move to Tassie would be a move to somewhere that wants them.

GC got 17k at home last week.

Whether people want them or not, they will lose even more players of they located in Tassie.

[Bloods05]

GC got 17k at home last week.

Whether people want them or not, they will lose even more players of they located in Tassie.

Maybe, but the long-term foundation would be stronger. They are trying to graft an AFL team onto a community that is not its natural constituency. You don't do that until you have consolidated the game in its homeland.

[royboy42]

Since I am very close to the bottom of the RWO tipping ladder, I am going to indulge in a back pat - I not only tipped Port: I tipped them to win by 14 points.

What tipping ladder?

[barry]

Maybe, but the long-term foundation would be stronger. They are trying to graft an AFL team onto a community that is not its natural constituency. You don't do that until you have consolidated the game in its homeland.

I think you are exaggerating the foundation of AFL in Tassie.

If they lose more players they will be less competitive and get even lower support wherever they are.

[barry]

If Tassie is ever to have a team it has has to be a relocated Melbourne team to give it that corporate tie in to a major city.

Tassie can support an AFL team on all grounds:
Player retention ( not enough Tassie players and others aren't going to stay),
Corporate sponsors.
Crowds. See recent hawks and norf crowds.

[707]

If Tassie is ever to have a team it has has to be a relocated Melbourne team to give it that corporate tie in to a major city.

Tassie can support an AFL team on all grounds:
Player retention ( not enough Tassie players and others aren't going to stay),
Corporate sponsors.
Crowds. See recent hawks and norf crowds.

I think you meant cannot support?

I'd hardly call attendances at recent Hawks & Norf games "crowds"! How about the supposed 7000 crowd at GWS last night, barely 2-3000 from what I saw unless they were all in the bars through boredom.

[barry]

I think you meant cannot support?

I'd hardly call attendances at recent Hawks & Norf games "crowds"! How about the supposed 7000 crowd at GWS last night, barely 2-3000 from what I saw unless they were all in the bars through boredom.

It was a poor crowd no doubt. Rain, long weekend, against suns. The promotion of GWS seems to have stalled.
It looked like a crowd of only members.

They lose a lot of supporter momentum by not being able to play at home in the first few rounds due to the Easter show. They really need to solve that. Get a big team early to build interest. Maybe play at somewhere like North Sydney oval as a bit of a novelty.

It will be a long time before a fixture of gold coast at spotless mid winter will draw a decent crowd.

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.. yes I meant " cannot". Can't edit posts on mobile view, so that confusing statement will live on forever. ????

[Hotpotato]

Who was the oxygen thief who brought in the silly exclusion rule which is paid on the whim of an umpire .
A player is exiting the zone to the best of his intentions and a 50m penalty is paid often gifting the recipient a goal.
What if this occurred in the last 5 seconds of a Grand Final.
This is complete over officiating the game.

[Meg]

Who was the oxygen thief who brought in the silly exclusion rule which is paid on the whim of an umpire .
A player is exiting the zone to the best of his intentions and a 50m penalty is paid often gifting the recipient a goal.
What if this occurred in the last 5 seconds of a Grand Final.
This is complete over officiating the game.

Completely agree, penalty way OTT for a ?crime? that has hurt no one.

Also one last night when Swans player was following his man when the Saints player ran through the zone. If there has to be a rule it should apply to all players - then if your own team runs through your zone followed by his opposing player it would be ?play on?.

[Bloods05]

I think you are exaggerating the foundation of AFL in Tassie.

The roots of Australian Rules (as distinct from 'AFL') in Tassie are every bit as deep as they are in any of the southern states. If the AFL was prepared to invest the squillions they have in western Sydney and the Gold Coast, I have absolutely no doubt it could be successful. The problem is that they are obsessed with imperial expansion, the clearest example of this being the preposterous China thing.