#AFL Round 14 Weekly Discussion Thread

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  • Sandridge
    Outer wing, Lake Oval
    • Apr 2010
    • 2093

    #61
    Closing in on 3/4 time, Collingwood leads the free kick count 24 - 10. Bulldog-esque figures!

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    • ugg
      Can you feel it?
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 15976

      #62
      Originally posted by Ludwig
      I noticed that the Collingwood players are wearing white armbands. Does that mean that one of their former players from the olden days has been reincarnated?
      It was for Eurydice Dixon
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      • crackedactor
        Regular in the Side
        • May 2012
        • 919

        #63
        Originally posted by Sandridge
        I know it was probably better for us if the Dogs had beaten North but I'm happy that the Bulldogs are almost assured of missing finals - again ! - after the gift they received in 2016.

        Great also to see Bulldogs fans incensed about an umpiring decision that went against them near the end of the game! (The free kicks were 23-23.)

        Would like to give credit where it's due to someone I don't like. I think James Brayshaw is a bit of a neanderthal but he did a terrifc job of objectively commentating a game featuring the team he was President of. Hope McGuire was taking notes.
        I can understand the Bulldogs complaint. I mean the rules clearly states they need to get 150% more free kicks than their opponents. Just like in the 2016 grand final. Great to see them suffer!!


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        • stevoswan
          Veterans List
          • Sep 2014
          • 8573

          #64
          Originally posted by Sandridge
          Closing in on 3/4 time, Collingwood leads the free kick count 24 - 10. Bulldog-esque figures!
          We are up against so many potential Vic 'fairytales' this season.....of course the Demons (success starved for so long), Norf (no-one gave them a chance this season, popular wooden spoon tip), Magpies (because they're Collingwood but this scenario should be seen as a fable than a fairytale) and not forgetting 'the two-peat Tigers!'.......and three of these teams share the 'jewel in the crown' home ground.....I think I hope we meet the WC or the Power in the GF, if we make it that is.

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          • Sandridge
            Outer wing, Lake Oval
            • Apr 2010
            • 2093

            #65
            Originally posted by stevoswan
            We are up against so many potential Vic 'fairytales' this season.....of course the Demons (success starved for so long), Norf (no-one gave them a chance this season, popular wooden spoon tip), Magpies (because they're Collingwood but this scenario should be seen as a fable than a fairytale) and not forgetting 'the two-peat Tigers!'.......and three of these teams share the 'jewel in the crown' home ground.....I think I hope we meet the WC or the Power in the GF, if we make it that is.
            Poor old umpires didn't know what to do in the Bulldogs/North game. Who to favour? End result? Free kicks were 23 all.

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            • barry
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 8499

              #66
              Originally posted by 707
              Cameron was never looking to mark the ball, knew he was late to the contest, chose to raise the elbow, concussed a player, that's in the 4-6 range, can't be less for a raised elbow and that result. GWS will be sweating that it's only 4 weeks.

              Wearing my conspiracy theory hat, AFL will water it down to help their team GWS :-)

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              This is exactly what the Vic media want you to believe. GWS get watered down to 4 weeks for what is a 3-4 week suspension.
              The days of non Vic teams being AFL lovechildren is long gone. It's Vic fairytales all the way now.

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              • neilfws
                Senior Player
                • Aug 2009
                • 1834

                #67
                Originally posted by neilfws
                I'd think 4
                I'm revising that up, based on the concerning news about Andrews this morning. Best wishes to him for a full recovery.

                Some incidents look better after watching the replay a few times. For me, this one looks worse with repeat viewing.

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                • 707
                  Veterans List
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6204

                  #68
                  Having watched the replay several times I can't find one thing that Cameron could use in his defence, everything about what he did was wrong, not looking at the ball, jumping in the air, fists clenched, elbow head high, guy been to hospital with a brain bleed, Cameron has a lot of form including breaking a jaw.

                  This is just the kind of incident that can end a career and a look the game doesn't need. Can't see it's less than 6 weeks, back fresh just in time for us!

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                  • barry
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 8499

                    #69
                    No doubt it was a very dodgy act, bit using the Barry hall staker punch as a reference (7 weeks). Cameron was in a marking contest (or, in play), wasn't closed fist, and his head was turned away during contact.
                    6 weeks is like saying it's almost just as bad as hall's strike.

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      #70
                      If Harris Andrews is forced to retire from football due to a brain injury from the incident, even if this is determined some time in the future, should Cameron be given additional penalties for ending a player's career? Could such a player receive a lifetime ban in a sort of 'eye for an eye' type sanction?

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                      • RogueSwan
                        McVeigh for Brownlow
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 4602

                        #71
                        Originally posted by barry
                        No doubt it was a very dodgy act, bit using the Barry hall staker punch as a reference (7 weeks).
                        The Hall incident was 13 years ago, suspensions have changed, for better or worse, since then.

                        Originally posted by barry
                        Cameron was in a marking contest (or, in play), wasn't closed fist, and his head was turned away during contact.
                        6 weeks is like saying it's almost just as bad as hall's strike.
                        A luxury not afforded to Harris :-(
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                        • aardvark
                          Veterans List
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 5685

                          #72
                          Originally posted by barry
                          No doubt it was a very dodgy act, bit using the Barry hall staker punch as a reference (7 weeks). Cameron was in a marking contest (or, in play), wasn't closed fist, and his head was turned away during contact.
                          6 weeks is like saying it's almost just as bad as hall's strike.
                          Cameron's eyes were on Andrews the whole way until just before the point of contact. He was never looking for the ball. It was intentional all day long. 8 weeks + from my point of view and he wants to hope Andrews recovers fine or he might need a good lawyer.

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                          • aardvark
                            Veterans List
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 5685

                            #73


                            This gives you the best view.

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                            • CureTheSane
                              Carpe Noctem
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 5032

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              If Harris Andrews is forced to retire from football due to a brain injury from the incident, even if this is determined some time in the future, should Cameron be given additional penalties for ending a player's career? Could such a player receive a lifetime ban in a sort of 'eye for an eye' type sanction?
                              I'm in the camp of penalising based on the action and intent more so than the injuries that resulted. The argument that if Harris had got up and played on makes it a 1 to 2 week penalty doesn't make sense.

                              If his intent was to end Harris' career, then he should cop a massive penalty. But that wasn't his intent, so why panalise him for that?
                              If he carelessly attacked the player and caused the potential for a more serious injury, then penalise him for that.

                              When I saw the incident, I said 6 based on what I saw. I stand by that.
                              Regardless of the injury, it looked like 6 before he even hit the ground.
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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                #75
                                Lot of emotion about this one. Tribunal could do anything.
                                Out of interest what was the last BIG suspension the AFL dished out?

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