Changes Round 16 - vs Geelong

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  • sprite
    Regular in the Side
    • Jan 2003
    • 813

    Team List Changes Round 16 - vs Geelong

    First game after a bye is usually a shocker anyway.

    We had a number of poor performers, but I don't expect wholesale changes.

    OUTS:
    Jack - is now being shown up with his lack of pace and poor kicking penetration.
    Rose - tried to get into the game but couldn't get into the rhythm.

    Possible:
    Heeney: Concussion may not be over it in time.

    IN:

    Papley - if fully fit replaces Rose.

    Newman for Jack.

    Fox for Heeney if ruled out.

    Key match ups:

    Dangerfield = Hewett, when Danger goes to forward line the Rampe picks him up
    Hawkins = Allir has the ability to match him on the lead but will need help if he has to work body to body
    Blicavs = Rohan, let's see if Gary can do a run with role. He has the pace to match and has the ability to match him in the air
    sprite
  • Ralph Dawg
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2018
    • 1729

    #2
    I?ve already posted my team views on another thread but in summary I would go:
    In: Papley, Cameron, Maibaum, Towers
    Out: Rose, Rohan, Aliir, Jack
    With Hanners on last chance. If Heeney is out, reprieve for Rohan.

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    • AB Swannie
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2017
      • 1579

      #3
      I?m not expecting wholesale changes given that the NEAFL game gives only a 5 day break for anyone who played there. However, Towers did not play (along with Robinson and Fox) and I?m expecting/hoping he comes back in as I think we miss his versatility and effort. I?m also expecting Paps to return.

      The big question for me is the outs. Rose is a definite out but Heeney and his concussion has to be a worry. If he is out then I think Rohan will be given a reprieve. Therefore:

      Ins: Towers, Papley
      Outs: Rohan/Heeney, Rose

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      • MattW
        Veterans List
        • May 2011
        • 4218

        #4
        OUT: Jack, Rose, Rohan
        IN: Fox, Papley, Towers

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        • 707
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2009
          • 6204

          #5
          Time to move out perennial passengers before it's too late in the season. Rohan, KJ & Rose out, Papley, Towers 2nd ruck, Robbo in. Robbo couldn't be less effective than KJ has become, sorry but necessary.

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          • Markwebbos
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            #6
            Seems to be a sense here on #RAWO that the Richmond game marked several players cards - namely Hanners, Kizza, Gaz, Rose. I think that Horse will persist with Hanners (given his comments after the game) and may give KJ a chance to atone against Geelong. But I'd like to think he won't. I wonder if he'll agree with almost everyone here re: Rohan? And will either of Melican or Reid be ready to play off limited game time and a 5 day break?

            Very interesting selection this week. Papley for Rose is a no brainer. The rest are not.

            OUT: Rohan, Rose
            IN: Towers, Papley

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            • liz
              Veteran
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 16773

              #7
              I find it disappointing that so many are keen to jettison Rose so quickly. He actually had some nice touches - including his involvement in the second Ronke goal and the Florent goal. It's pretty tough to expect someone to immediately step up from NEAFL level and contribute significantly against the reigning premiers.

              If Papley's ready he'll come back in but there are three players I'd rather see him replace than Rose (and a fourth possibility if Heeney isn't right to play).

              Oh, and I don't think it's about giving someone like Jack the chance to atone. I don't for one moment doubt his desire or effort. It surely comes down to whether his body is fit enough to allow him to contribute in the way we need him to.

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              • KSAS
                Senior Player
                • Mar 2018
                • 1793

                #8
                The fact that we're playing Thursday night again will have the biggest influence with selection, as anyone coming up from the NEAFL will only have a 5 day break. With that in mind I expect only 1 change (assuming Heeney will be OK)

                IN: Papley
                OUT: Rose

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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16773

                  #9
                  Originally posted by KSAS
                  The fact that we're playing Thursday night again will have the biggest influence with selection, as anyone coming up from the NEAFL will only have a 5 day break. With that in mind I expect only 1 change (assuming Heeney will be OK)

                  IN: Papley
                  OUT: Rose
                  They pulled Robinson, Towers and Fox from the NEAFL side, presumably in anticipation of the short turnaround (relative to the NEAFL game). So they, along with possibly Papley, are the only likely ins.

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    #10
                    Originally posted by liz
                    I find it disappointing that so many are keen to jettison Rose so quickly. He actually had some nice touches - including his involvement in the second Ronke goal and the Florent goal. It's pretty tough to expect someone to immediately step up from NEAFL level and contribute significantly against the reigning premiers.

                    If Papley's ready he'll come back in but there are three players I'd rather see him replace than Rose (and a fourth possibility if Heeney isn't right to play).

                    Oh, and I don't think it's about giving someone like Jack the chance to atone. I don't for one moment doubt his desire or effort. It surely comes down to whether his body is fit enough to allow him to contribute in the way we need him to.
                    I agree about giving Rose another go this week. He's had a super NEAFL season and if he's dropped now it's as good as saying he's delisted, because there's next to nil chance of getting back in the senior side. It's a huge step up in intensity playing Richmond first up. I didn't think he was that far off the pace of the game.

                    It seems from the numerous comments on the match day thread that nearly everyone has had enough of carrying Hanners, Jack and Rohan. Let Hanners and Jack get their bodies right in the NEAFL and show they can still play senior footy. There's enough evidence that they are just not right at the moment.

                    I haven't given up on Rohan, but I have given up on him as a forward. He needs to reinvent himself himself as a halfback flanker if he wants to continue as an AFL footballer. He just doesn't produce enough as a forward and we now have plenty of talented of pressure forwards who are quick and can kick goals. So back to the NEAFL because there's just no place for him now unless he can make it in defence.

                    Papley and the rested Towers and Fox to replace those three. I'm not sure how many of those who played in the reserves Saturday will be up for a Thursday game on 5 days rest.

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                    • ernie koala
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2007
                      • 3251

                      #11
                      Agree with Liz and others Re : Rose

                      OUT : Heeney, Rohan

                      IN : Papley, Towers

                      Hannebery and Jack need to lift...Or if not right, rested!!
                      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                      • barry
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8499

                        #12
                        I'd only drop one of Rohan or jack. No need to ring wholesale changes yet.

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                        • Blood Fever
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4050

                          #13
                          Originally posted by barry
                          I'd only drop one of Rohan or jack. No need to ring wholesale changes yet.
                          Jack has been a very fine player for us but he really shouldn't be in the team on form. Longmire has been admirably loyal to his senior players but I think he needs to bite the bullet on this one.

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                          • CureTheSane
                            Carpe Noctem
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 5032

                            #14
                            Out: Hanners, Jack, Rohan Heeney
                            In: Reid, Towers, Marsh, Papley
                            The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                            • Markwebbos
                              Veterans List
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 7186

                              #15
                              This from Mark Robinson on Hanners (in the Dislikes funnily enough): Category: | Herald Sun

                              After Round 4, we said of Hannebery: ?Jack Dyer used to say, ?It?s no good being where the ball ain?t?, and Hannebery isn?t finding anywhere near the amount of ball he used to.?? Not much has changed in 10 weeks. You could argue Hannebery is in a two-season form slump. The animalistic attitude at contests and gut-busting running have dissipated and his possessions are run of the mill. In 2016, he had 802 disposals from 26 games. In 2017 it was 569 from 23. This year he averages 19 disposals a game (rated below average); seven contested possessions (poor); 199m gained (poor); two clearances (poor); zero goals (poor); three score involvements (poor); and 31 pressure points (poor). His drop has been astonishing and you have to wonder if the knee injury he suffered in the 2016 Grand Final against the Bulldogs is part of the reason.

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