Hanners defenders

[dimelb]

The AFL match report said he sustained a calf injury during the game.

I'm guessing he won't be playing next week.

Noted Horse's comment in the after match presser: they had to play Hanners forward because he couldn't run. That may well be true, but it's not the only thing he needs treatment for. He is brave to the point of kamikaze attack, and needs someone else to pull him up and look after whatever is wrong.

[mcs]

Fear they are both over the hill. If so, massive hole in the short to medium term chances of staying at the pointy end of the ladder. Kieren has a contract for next year and Hanners has one for a few more.

To be perfectly frank, I don't think we will miss KJ much at all. His output has dropped the last couple of seasons quite significantly, and he is on the peripheral now. We will miss his leadership of course, but output on the field is marginal now.

A fully fit Hanners is a different story altogether, and of course McVeigh is the biggest loss of them all, as he has been still so influential.

[Agent 86]

Please tell us about his 12 disposals tonight
Should not be out there

Well, you’ll get your wish now. KJ is gone too. & McVeigh.

Reckon It’s going to be an ugly end to this season.

Of the inclusions last night Fox showed promise, Robinson has had a few chances to date - but apart from
the goofy photo on the scoreboard and a nice goal, doesn’t seem offer much (or even to trust himself at senior level), Fawlty was a waste of space.

Melican is gone (again) and as far as Sam Reid goes, just a matter of time before the next injury.

There’s a massive step up from the ressies & only the ‘Hanners defenders’ seem to understand it.

Can see some major carnage in the middle for the rest of year. Hope I’m wrong…

[Agent 86]

Hanners defenders

Seniors is not the place to build fitness/form. Time has come to either put him out for the year or play NEAFL, badly cooked! I defy anyone to say why slow as treacle Hanners should be in seniors ahead of say Newman.

Serious decisions need to be made, this is male cow manure!

Newman gets chances - does nothing. Gets dropped.

Will no doubt get another start very soon. Let’s hope he can step up.

[Swanny40519]

Newman gets chances - does nothing. Gets dropped.

Will no doubt get another start very soon. Let’s hope he can step up.

I have watched a lot of reserves games this year - live and on TV and I am not sure Newman is the answer.

He seems to make a lot of mistakes and he is not very fast. He tries to do more than his talent allows and turns the ball over too many times.

Plus I don't think he is hard enough at the ball.

[caj23]

Well, you’ll get your wish now. KJ is gone too. & McVeigh.

Reckon It’s going to be an ugly end to this season.

Of the inclusions last night Fox showed promise, Robinson has had a few chances to date - but apart from
the goofy photo on the scoreboard and a nice goal, doesn’t seem offer much (or even to trust himself at senior level), Fawlty was a waste of space.

Melican is gone (again) and as far as Sam Reid goes, just a matter of time before the next injury.

There’s a massive step up from the ressies & only the ‘Hanners defenders’ seem to understand it.

Can see some major carnage in the middle for the rest of year. Hope I’m wrong…

I don't wish injuries on anyone (well maybe Jaeger O'Meara!)

In any event I wouldn't be surprised to see Hanners named next week, injury or not.

As for the inclusions, Fox was one of our better performers, Robinson was good, Towers was admittedly off. So two out of the three taking the "massive step" had better games then Hanners.

I don't have a beef with Hanners, I love him as a player and he's been a champion of the club for a number of years. I do however have a problem with senior players who are clearly playing injured getting a gold pass for a game regardless of their output. It's not a recent phenomenon, it's been a hallmark of Longmire's reign and playing unfit senior players has cost us on numerous occasions (2016 GF anyone?)

How do we know if someone can step up from the NEAFL if they're not getting the opportunity? Newman has been pillored on here, but this season he's had 3 non-consecutive games played out of the position where he played his best footy last year, 2 of those games were passes, the third not so great.

I don't particularly like stating it, but personally I think the team will be stronger without Jack and won't lose anything without Hanners in their current form. McVeigh is obviously a loss, but its also an opportunity to see what someone else can do in that position.

As for the thread title, I'll admit it was in the heat of the moment post game and is a little harsh, but refers to the "he's a champion, he's not allowed to be dropped" brigade which somehow still exist on here even after last night

[Blood Tunnel]

Please tell us about his 12 disposals tonight
Should not be out there

He got 12 disposals tonight.
About 4 less than Ablett who is fit.

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Seniors is not the place to build fitness/form. Time has come to either put him out for the year or play NEAFL, badly cooked! I defy anyone to say why slow as treacle Hanners should be in seniors ahead of say Newman.

Serious decisions need to be made, this is male cow manure!

Hanners should be in the seniors ahead of Newman.

[Blood Fever]

To be perfectly frank, I don't think we will miss KJ much at all. His output has dropped the last couple of seasons quite significantly, and he is on the peripheral now. We will miss his leadership of course, but output on the field is marginal now.

A fully fit Hanners is a different story altogether, and of course McVeigh is the biggest loss of them all, as he has been still so influential.

Agree re Jack but I think the club were banking on him still being effective during the years he was still in contract.

[neilfws]

Neil Cordy casually mentions that Hannebery is battling OP, as some suspected:

Swans believe Hannebery “getting back to his best” says Neil Cordy – LIVE AFL RADIO

[CureTheSane]

I call BS on all the injuries happening to underperforming players. Jack excluded.
Funny how players aren't dropped, they are injured.
I'd suggest that they carry more potential trade currency this way.
So I guess I'm not complaining

[Nico]

I think he needs to either rest for 4-5 weeks to get whatever is wrong (groin, calf, or everything else) and then get ready for a finals attempt.

If not that then miss the rest of this year and be ready for another go in 2019.

We cannot afford to play him now in his current form. No run, no sparkle, no assists, nothing !

They did that with him earlier in the season.

[Nico]

Neil Cordy casually mentions that Hannebery is battling OP, as some suspected:

Swans believe Hannebery “getting back to his best” says Neil Cordy – LIVE AFL RADIO

If that's the case he has had it for about 3 years. He has supposedly recovered from this. Sometimes players will say they are ok when they really aren't. If he got a calf injury why leave him out there if he was useless. By being out there he was a liability.

[stevoswan]

I think he needs to either rest for 4-5 weeks to get whatever is wrong (groin, calf, or everything else) and then get ready for a finals attempt.

If not that then miss the rest of this year and be ready for another go in 2019.

We cannot afford to play him now in his current form. No run, no sparkle, no assists, nothing !

Agree with all of this.....surely doing the opposite by persisting with him in the seniors is potentially jeopardizing his longer term future. I'd rather have a gun Hanners running around in 2019 than the pale imitation lumbering around now.

[stevoswan]

Fawlty was a waste of space.

Has anyone called him that before? That's Gold!! I've never thought of that and I love Fawlty Towers.....

[Captain]

Hanners is absolutely cooked.

Shadow of his former self, injury prone, slow and has lost his main strength - gut running.

Time to go Daniel.