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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    #31
    Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
    Naismith our 4th best ruckman? You've got to be kidding. You've even got Amartey ahead of him.

    Naismith is a pure ruckman. He would certainly be our 1st ruck if he was fit. Sinclair would our fwd/ruck.
    I'm afraid the pure ruckman is a thing of the past, unless the rules are changed to make it more favourable for the old style ruckman. It's probably a moot point regarding Naismith. Sadly, it seems that persistent injuries are likely to stifle his AFL career. If he does make it back, he will have to develop other parts of his game to succeed, and for that to happen he first needs a good run with injury.

    I rate Amartey quite highly, and the club seems to as well, extending his contract another year. He has a good all around game which just needs time to develop and refine. He could be a true tall utility that can play all key positions. I can see him as a good tall defender option (even though I've never seen him play defence), if Melican turns out to be one of those injury prone players.

    A possible future role for Naismith could be as a specialist Mason Cox Defender. If Mason Cox continues to improve, we may find a few more clubs playing super tall forwards that can just extend their arms while standing on the ground and take a mark. So there may be a need for a likewise tall agile player who can defend the vertical space around the Mason Cox type forward. Maybe he would only play when we play Collingwood or if all our other ruckmen are out injured.

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    • Blood Fever
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 4040

      #32
      Originally posted by Ludwig
      I'm afraid the pure ruckman is a thing of the past, unless the rules are changed to make it more favourable for the old style ruckman. It's probably a moot point regarding Naismith. Sadly, it seems that persistent injuries are likely to stifle his AFL career. If he does make it back, he will have to develop other parts of his game to succeed, and for that to happen he first needs a good run with injury.

      I rate Amartey quite highly, and the club seems to as well, extending his contract another year. He has a good all around game which just needs time to develop and refine. He could be a true tall utility that can play all key positions. I can see him as a good tall defender option (even though I've never seen him play defence), if Melican turns out to be one of those injury prone players.

      A possible future role for Naismith could be as a specialist Mason Cox Defender. If Mason Cox continues to improve, we may find a few more clubs playing super tall forwards that can just extend their arms while standing on the ground and take a mark. So there may be a need for a likewise tall agile player who can defend the vertical space around the Mason Cox type forward. Maybe he would only play when we play Collingwood or if all our other ruckmen are out injured.
      Naismith was crucial for centre clearances and his agility is under rated. He is still our best option if he can come back fit. Sinclair has been great but gets monstered by heavier blokes.

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      • barry
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 8499

        #33
        I see Cameron filling the mason Cox specialist defenders role. Expect his debut when we play Collingwood next.

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        • Markwebbos
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2016
          • 7186

          #34
          Originally posted by barry
          I see Cameron filling the mason Cox specialist defenders role. Expect his debut when we play Collingwood next.
          I like the idea of Cameron getting his debut soon

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          • aguy
            Senior Player
            • Mar 2014
            • 1324

            #35
            I’ve just gotten back from holidays so I’m watching the replay of the north Melbourne game ( yes I know the result )

            I know it’s been said before but I think we’ve seen the last of Mills playing as a defender. By the time he comes back next year the transformation of our defence into a running defence will be just about complete with only a few minor tweaks ( eg as smith gets older).

            Mills will come back into the midfield and should run amok with Heeney, Florent aided by the experience of Kennedy and Parker. No room for jack or hanners unless hanners has a dramatic recovery

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            • S.S. Bleeder
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2014
              • 2165

              #36
              Nick Smith as been ruled out for 6 weeks, I.e. the season, with his hammy.

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              • S.S. Bleeder
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2014
                • 2165

                #37
                Alex Johnson Knee Season
                Matthew Ling Toe Season
                Jack Maibaum Knee 3-4 weeks
                Harry Marsh Hamstring 2 weeks
                Lewis Melican Hamstring 4-5 weeks
                Callum Mills Foot Season
                Sam Reid Achilles 2-3 weeks
                Gary Rohan Hand Test
                Nick Smith Hamstring 6 weeks
                Sam Naismith Knee Season
                Kurt Tippett Season/Retired

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                • AnnieH
                  RWOs Black Sheep
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 11332

                  #38
                  Smooch being out for six weeks is bad, m'kay.
                  Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                  Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    #39
                    Looking on the bright side, it’s a chance to try someone else in that role.

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                    • Doctor
                      Bay 29
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 2757

                      #40
                      The Giants currently have 16 on their injury list. Lots of good players between the two clubs will not be playing this week,
                      Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                      • 707
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6204

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Doctor
                        The Giants currently have 16 on their injury list. Lots of good players between the two clubs will not be playing this week,
                        I made it 8-9 best 22 players injured for GWS and they've won 9 of their last 10? with a similar injury list. Still a lot of depth at GWS.

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                        • The Big Cat
                          On the veteran's list
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 2347

                          #42
                          Originally posted by 707
                          I made it 8-9 best 22 players injured for GWS and they've won 9 of their last 10? with a similar injury list. Still a lot of depth at GWS.
                          Yep, when things get tough with GWS they might have to resort to playing a second round draft pick!
                          Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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