Is Longmire cooked?

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  • YvonneH
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2011
    • 1141

    Originally posted by goswannies
    Interesting and odd considering how biased Dumstall sounds when he commentates our games :
    I think everyone sounds biased when commentating our games.

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    • chalbilto
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2007
      • 1139

      Originally posted by KSAS
      Slightly off topic, but on AFL360 tonight Dunstall & Brereton had an intense discussion about Longmire's game plan. No secret Brereton has long been critical of Longmire's game plan particularly how it doesn't suit Buddy against good teams. Dunstall was in strong disagreement with Brereton, making the point the Swans would have not made top four & play in 2 GF's without Buddy. He was also strong against the notion the Swans need to win a premiership to justify his signing. Dunstall thought Brereton was too harsh on the Swans/Longmire game plan, adding all teams review their game plans each year & make necessary adjustments which the Swans were forced to with their injuries & playing their young batch.
      Apart from Brereton, Mark Robinson is very harsh on his criticism of the Franklin deal insisting that it has a been a failure because they haven't won a premiership with him. Buddy has been an absolute success and when they win a premiership with him it would be a real bonus. As has been well discussed the 2016 grand final was stolen from the Swans, but alas history can't be changed.

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      • Mel_C
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 4470

        I read that next season runners will only be allowed to relay messages after a goal. So Longmire better make sure we start kicking more goals ????.

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        • The Big Cat
          On the veteran's list
          • Apr 2006
          • 2360

          Originally posted by Mel_C
          I read that next season runners will only be allowed to relay messages after a goal. So Longmire better make sure we start kicking more goals ????.
          They can also be used when the opposition kicks one! Make sure they are limited!
          Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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          • Matty10
            Senior Player
            • Jun 2007
            • 1331

            Originally posted by The Big Cat
            They can also be used when the opposition kicks one! Make sure they are limited!
            Wouldn’t that be a great incentive for coaches to play an offensive style - you only get to send a message if your team scores.

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            • Roysky
              Registered User
              • Sep 2018
              • 6

              Originally posted by caj23
              Discuss
              I think his time is up - too many teams have gone past us and frankly too many coaches getting the better of Longmire too - our game plan has not evolved enough and we simply have not delivered enough for the quality of list we have had last 5 or 6 years - losing Mitchell and Nankervis has killed us too

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              • Hotpotato
                Senior Player
                • Jun 2014
                • 2285

                It’s no good saying his time is up if you don’t name someone who could do a superior job.... these people that do it successfully are extremely rare.
                The diversity of management and people issues they have to handle is massive before they even think about strategies and game plans.

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                • caj23
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 2462

                  Regardless of what the club do with Longmire, I'd hope they have their finger on the pulse of who are the next lot of coaches waiting in line and their respective potential and abilities

                  If they don't then they are negligent

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    If there is unrest or even “ferment” among the players, including Luke Parker, then something’s wrong and must be dealt with ASAP.

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                    • chammond
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1368

                      Originally posted by Markwebbos
                      If there is unrest or even “ferment” among the players, including Luke Parker, then something’s wrong and must be dealt with ASAP.
                      What?

                      What evidence is there that the players are stirring up trouble at the club?

                      Troll alert!

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                      • caj23
                        Senior Player
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 2462

                        Originally posted by chammond
                        What?

                        What evidence is there that the players are stirring up trouble at the club?

                        Troll alert!
                        He's referring to the news reports suggesting that Parker is unhappy and wants out as well

                        Whether there is any truth to player unrest or not is impossible to know without inside info

                        Not a troll

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          Originally posted by caj23
                          He's referring to the news reports suggesting that Parker is unhappy and wants out as well

                          Whether there is any truth to player unrest or not is impossible to know without inside info

                          Not a troll
                          Thanks caj23. Some on RWO, claim - on the basis of inside info - that there is unrest at the Swans. As do several in the media. But it could well be BS

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                          • Hotpotato
                            Senior Player
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 2285

                            Well I’m a bit unhappy as well ... we keep blowing quite a lot of finals and losing at the SCG.

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                            • Mel_C
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 4470

                              Originally posted by Markwebbos
                              If there is unrest or even “ferment” among the players, including Luke Parker, then something’s wrong and must be dealt with ASAP.
                              I agree. The club needs to listen to the player's issues and try and rectify them. The swans don't seem like a club that would let things fester.

                              But if there is an issue amongst the players then why are our younger players signing extensions?

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                              • liz
                                Veteran
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 16787

                                Originally posted by Mel_C
                                I agree. The club needs to listen to the player's issues and try and rectify them. The swans don't seem like a club that would let things fester.

                                But if there is an issue amongst the players then why are our younger players signing extensions?
                                I suspect part of the issue some players might have is other clubs waving large wads of cash in front of their eyes, even already contracted players. The rapid rise in the salary cap over the last couple of seasons has left some clubs with an awful lot of space to fill. The Swans anticipated it and spent most of it before it arrived (on Buddy, but also on signing up our then-gun midfielders on long and fairly lucrative contracts).

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