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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    Originally posted by Bill Posters
    How do you know it's depression?
    Just making a reasonable guess that it's something related to anxiety or depression. More likely than schizophrenia or a psychosis. I think 'mental illness' is a common euphemism for depression these days.

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    • Blood Fever
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 4028

      Originally posted by Ludwig
      Just making a reasonable guess that it's something related to anxiety or depression. More likely than schizophrenia or a psychosis. I think 'mental illness' is a common euphemism for depression these days.
      Maybe with two little kids he is more stressed and just needs time out. AFL stressful environment and life changes can take their toll.

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      • MattW
        Veterans List
        • May 2011
        • 4164

        Originally posted by Markwebbos
        I wondered if forcing Reg to play NEAFL contributed to his troubles?
        Back when Grundy was spelled from the Kangaroos game Longmire said in one interview that it was for a 'physical and mental' break. The language seemed conspicuous at the time.

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        • Bill Posters
          Warming the Bench
          • Sep 2014
          • 259

          Fair enough. I'd guess anxiety. Depression less likely in people who do so much exercise.

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          • Hotpotato
            Senior Player
            • Jun 2014
            • 2241

            Will McVeigh and Jack get this team back in some form , I reckon they will but not sure if it will be sufficient.

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            • Markwebbos
              Veterans List
              • Jul 2016
              • 7186

              Originally posted by Hotpotato
              Will McVeigh and Jack get this team back in some form , I reckon they will but not sure if it will be sufficient.
              McVeigh was a key member of the team despite his lack of speed. Jack picked up 8, 17, 14, 15 disposals and 6, 2, 4, 2 tackles in his last 4 games. But may add leadership and harden us up. Not convinced that either are the messiah

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8522

                Originally posted by Blood Fever
                Maybe with two little kids he is more stressed and just needs time out. AFL stressful environment and life changes can take their toll.
                Well it wouldn't be a 'mental health' issue then would it?! It would be stress.....

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                • Blood Fever
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4028

                  [QUOTE=stevoswan;756663]Well it wouldn't be a 'mental health' issue then would it?!

                  Stress not a mental health issue?

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                  • cherub
                    Warming the Bench
                    • May 2010
                    • 239

                    [QUOTE=Blood Fever;756670]
                    Originally posted by stevoswan
                    Well it wouldn't be a 'mental health' issue then would it?!

                    Stress not a mental health issue?
                    No. Stress is a normal part of life. It can trigger mental illness if there is an underlying vulnerability. We all have a threshold. Ithink we should accept we don't know,and we don't have a right to know. Speculation is inevitable but it doesn't help.

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                    • goswannies
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 3048

                      Originally posted by cherub
                      No. Stress is a normal part of life. It can trigger mental illness if there is an underlying vulnerability. We all have a threshold. Ithink we should accept we don't know,and we don't have a right to know. Speculation is inevitable but it doesn't help.
                      You are correct cherub, stress is a normal part of life. But it is also a significant contributor to Mental Heath and physical health. And physical health impacts on mental health.


                      From mind.org.uk: “Stress can cause mental health problems, and make existing problems worse. For example, if you often struggle to manage feelings of stress, you might develop a mental health problem like anxiety or depression. Mental health problems can cause stress.”

                      According to the National Institute of Mental Health: “3. Long-term stress can harm your health.

                      Health problems can occur if the stress response goes on for too long or becomes chronic, such as when the source of stress is constant, or if the response continues after the danger has subsided. With chronic stress, those same life-saving responses in your body can suppress immune, digestive, sleep, and reproductive systems, which may cause them to stop working normally.

                      Different people may feel stress in different ways. For example, some people experience mainly digestive symptoms, while others may have headaches, sleeplessness, sadness, anger or irritability. People under chronic stress are prone to more frequent and severe viral infections, such as the flu or common cold.

                      Routine stress may be the hardest type of stress to notice at first. Because the source of stress tends to be more constant than in cases of acute or traumatic stress, the body gets no clear signal to return to normal functioning. Over time, continued strain on your body from routine stress may contribute to serious health problems, such as heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, and other illnesses, as well as mental disorders like depression or anxiety.”

                      Moreover, it’s perhaps a little insensitive to suggest that stress associated with new borns and young families isn’t related to Mental Health. Post Natal Depression / postpartum depression is a legitimate diagnosis.

                      According to Beyond Blue appropriately 5% of men are affected by Postnatal Depression in the first year after the child’s birth.

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