#AFLGF Pies v Eagles

[0918330512]

There are a lot of club supporters who go to the came, you are not wrong. Problem yesterday, and I was at the game, was that Magpie supporters hugely outnumbered Eagles because the game was thousand of kilometres from Perth, the home city of the higher ranked team. Absurd and unfair.

There is a certain irony when there have been complaints on here about supporters of the participating clubs not getting tickets and criticism of it being unfair, when a complainer was at the game and wasn’t a supporter of either team.

I’m discounting the fact you probably barracked for the Eagles on the day, more that there was an actual Eagles supporter or member standing outside begging for a ticket when there was a Swans supporter enjoying the game.

That being said, I think that anyone who has access to a ticket and can afford a ticket & wants to attend should be able to. I don’t advocate scalping. I don’t advocate no shows. Every seat should be filled as there are always people who miss out so for someone (probably a MCC member) to just not turn up is a waste.

BUT your argument is valid. I was hoping to find some figures to refute it. However, in 2018 West Coast have 80K members, Collingwood 75K. In 2017 a Roy Morgan poll estimated West Coast had 669K supporters. Collingwood had 663K. With a fairly even supporter and member base, you would hope for a fairly even distribution of support amongst the crowd.

Perhaps what would be useful next year would be to have upon entry, each attendant indicate if they are a member and/or supporter of the participating clubs, or a supporter for the day for either, out just attending & have no preference. It’d be pretty easy to just have a touch screen as they scan their tickets. I’d have thought that would be either interesting and/or useful info for the AFL.

[Blood Fever]

There is a certain irony when there have been complaints on here about supporters of the participating clubs not getting tickets and criticism of it being unfair, when a complainer was at the game and wasn’t a supporter of either team.

I’m discounting the fact you probably barracked for the Eagles on the day, more that there was an actual Eagles supporter or member standing outside begging for a ticket when there was a Swans supporter enjoying the game.

That being said, I think that anyone who has access to a ticket and can afford a ticket & wants to attend should be able to. I don’t advocate scalping. I don’t advocate no shows. Every seat should be filled as there are always people who miss out so for someone (probably a MCC member) to just not turn up is a waste.

BUT your argument is valid. I was hoping to find some figures to refute it. However, in 2018 West Coast have 80K members, Collingwood 75K. In 2017 a Roy Morgan poll estimated West Coast had 669K supporters. Collingwood had 663K. With a fairly even supporter and member base, you would hope for a fairly even distribution of support amongst the crowd.

Perhaps what would be useful next year would be to have upon entry, each attendant indicate if they are a member and/or supporter of the participating clubs, or a supporter for the day for either, out just attending & have no preference. It’d be pretty easy to just have a touch screen as they scan their tickets. I’d have thought that would be either interesting and/or useful info for the AFL.

Got a ticket in the MCC ballot so ended up using it. Could have transferred it to a fellow MCC member and was going to do so if Richmond or Melbourne made it. Don't have any West Coast friends (unsurprisingly) in the same boat but gladly would have done the same. See the point about the irony but this should have been an Optus Oval Perth problem, not a Melbourne MCG problem. Simple home ground entitlement as per every other major competition on the planet. By the way, and I'm not sure it was you who used the word to be fair to you, protesting about something so blatantly unfair is not whinging, no matter how long a signed contact's time frame.

[Sandridge]

This makes yesterday even better!

Collingwood were dudded by umpires, says Leigh Matthews

Don't recall a similar article by Matthews after the 2016 Grand Final, however.

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Got a ticket in the MCC ballot so ended up using it. Could have transferred it to a fellow MCC member and was going to do so if Richmond or Melbourne made it. Don't have any West Coast friends (unsurprisingly) in the same boat but gladly would have done the same. See the point about the irony but this should have been an Optus Oval Perth problem, not a Melbourne MCG problem. Simple home ground entitlement as per every other major competition on the planet. By the way, and I'm not sure it was you who used the word to be fair to you, protesting about something so blatantly unfair is not whinging, no matter how long a signed contact's time frame.

Well said!

[Blood Fever]

This makes yesterday even better!

Collingwood were dudded by umpires, says Leigh Matthews

Don't recall a similar article by Matthews after the 2016 Grand Final, however.

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Well said!

Thought Eagles got hosed by umps in first half. Lot of non calls. Howe's drag in near the goal square and non holding the ball decisions that should have penalised Pies.

[crackedactor]

This makes yesterday even better!

Collingwood were dudded by umpires, says Leigh Matthews

Don't recall a similar article by Matthews after the 2016 Grand Final, however.

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Well said!

Unbelievable!! They complain about one incorrect call and it's a big issue. Collingwood received 4 more free kicks. I can remember about 15 non decisions that happened in 2016 GF to the Swans, that were never mentioned by mid stream media. Funny about that!


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[dejavoodoo44]

Thought Eagles got hosed by umps in first half. Lot of non calls. Howe's drag in near the goal square and non holding the ball decisions that should have penalised Pies.

Yes, I thought that the umpiring favoured Collingwood to a certain degree, but it wasn't too bad. I don't have to think too hard, to remember a GF or two, where umpiring has been a whole lot worse.

[KSAS]

Unbelievable!! They complain about one incorrect call and it's a big issue. Collingwood received 4 more free kicks. I can remember about 15 non decisions that happened in 2016 GF to the Swans, that were never mentioned by mid stream media. Funny about that!


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Yeah agree. I doubt the AFL is going to issue a statement saying that the umpiring standard was poor but difficult to determine whether it affected the result of the GF.

[Nico]

There are a lot of club supporters who go to the came, you are not wrong. Problem yesterday, and I was at the game, was that Magpie supporters hugely outnumbered Eagles because the game was thousand of kilometres from Perth, the home city of the higher ranked team. Absurd and unfair.

A lot of MCC and AFL members are Collingwood supporters so a lot more of their supporters got a ticket.

[Nico]

Spot on. Another potential blight on the game is the proposed 18 metre goal square simply to produce more goals for more ads. Greed at the expense of the game.

I heard that in the name of equilization Carlton will have a 50 x 7 metre rectangle.

[Mel_C]

I'm always surprised how the ground capacity is more important than a fair game to many people. The AFL stated this week
that 34,000 tickets went to Collingwood & West Coast supporters. That means that the other 66,000 seats went to people
who aren't supporters of the grand final teams. So it seems the priority of squeezing in as many non-supporters as possible
comes before a fair game.

The 66,000 includes AFL Members (which I am) & MCC Members. So that's more members that can attend for the Victorian based team which increases their advantage. Yesterday there were thousands of Collingwood supporters around me and last year was the same with Richmond playing.

[Markwebbos]

Yeah agree. I doubt the AFL is going to issue a statement saying that the umpiring standard was poor but difficult to determine whether it affected the result of the GF.

Like in 2016 you mean

[mcs]

This makes yesterday even better!

Collingwood were dudded by umpires, says Leigh Matthews

Don't recall a similar article by Matthews after the 2016 Grand Final, however.

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Well said!

Never takes much for a bit of a whine after a Melbourne team gets when there is even a whiff of a bad call or two (I thought on balance the game was pretty well umpired yesterday) - yet when any swans dare suggest they got bent over and taken for a ride in 2016, its all about 'sore losers' and that's that....

[KSAS]

Like in 2016 you mean

Yes, I was referring to the AFL's explanation of the poor umpiring in the 2016 GF which undoubltly cost us the flag. I still get annoyed with radio commentators who chuckle at Swans supporters when they ring & bring this up, like we're a bunch of whingers and need to get over it. But yet people like Matthews, Malthouse & Robbo scream headlines Magpies were robbed of flag on Saturdsy because of one 50/50 (technical) decision, even though they still won the free kick count!

[aardvark]

I heard that in the name of equilization Carlton will have a 50 x 7 metre rectangle.

Maybe the length of a teams square could be determined by their position on the ladder eg. 18th = 36m, 17th =35m, ect ect.

[KTigers]

I heard that in the name of equilization Carlton will have a 50 x 7 metre rectangle.

You sure that will be big enough? In the name of equalisation, I think the Carlton kick outs should be taken from
inside their own goal square. And if they miss the first time, they get a second go at it.