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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 15968

    “Refuse to Lose” is a rugby league podcast but for their fifth (and currently latest) episode they talk to Kizza for well over an hour. The early stuff like his introduction to AFL, his draft story, his early training days as a tagger cover existing ground but the later stuff like his thoughts on the Adam Goodes racism incidents, the 14 and 16 GFs, and his post football career is new (well at least it is to me)

    Last edited by ugg; 22 June 2020, 02:59 PM.
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    • Nico
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 11337

      Originally posted by bloodspirit
      It hurts a little bit seeing how well Zak Jones is doing at St Kilda, and doubly so knowing that we got shafted at the trade table. It eases the pain a smidge that there probably wasn't much more we could have done to keep him (unlike with Mitchell - which hurts a bit more because we also got shafted in the trade but we could have kept him if we had tried a bit harder and hadn't decided to prioritise other players). Afl.com.au's 'Data Report' with the guy from Champion Data focused on the value that Zak Jones is bringing to St Kilda, and I watched it yesterday, which is why i happen to bringing this up now.
      Both were very ordinary yesterday. Jones chased tail all game and Hanners just jogged around looking for the easy stat. Reminded me of his last season with us.
      http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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      • MattW
        Veterans List
        • May 2011
        • 4211

        Originally posted by ugg
        For his second AFL game Cameron did well, took a couple of solid contested marks.
        Didn't watch the game, but just 2 disposals and 3 hitouts in 90% time on ground this week.

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        • Doctor J.
          Senior Player
          • Feb 2003
          • 1310

          Originally posted by ugg
          “Refuse to Lose” is a rugby league podcast but for their fifth (and currently latest) episode they talk to Kizza for well over an hour. The early stuff like his introduction to AFL, his draft story, his early training days as a ragged cover existing ground but the later stuff like his thoughts on the Adam Goodes racism incidents, the 14 and 16 GFs, and his post football career is new (well at least it is to me)

          https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode/666961
          Thanks for sharing that Ugg. It is a great listen. Goes for over an hour but worth every minute. He is a very smart articulate person.

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            Originally posted by ugg
            “Refuse to Lose” is a rugby league podcast but for their fifth (and currently latest) episode they talk to Kizza for well over an hour. The early stuff like his introduction to AFL, his draft story, his early training days as a tagger cover existing ground but the later stuff like his thoughts on the Adam Goodes racism incidents, the 14 and 16 GFs, and his post football career is new (well at least it is to me)

            https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode/666961
            What a great interview. Many people in from that time say they would do more if they had the chance again with Goode's, but none can say what it would be and how effective it would be. I think nothing short of refusing to play would have changed the outcome.

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            • barry
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 8499

              With the documentaries about Adam Goodes, the racism in AFL is forever cemented in History, and cant just be forgotten or ignored like the AFL admin would like it to.

              This story, even if probably exaggerating its viewership in the US, just re-enforces how poor the whole saga was, and will haunt the AFL for a long, long time. In hindsight, knowing this wouldnt be forgotten, I bet they wished they did something substantial about it at the time.

              ‘Australia look like southern crackers’: US reacts to Adam Goodes documentary

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              • bloodspirit
                Clubman
                • Apr 2015
                • 4448

                Originally posted by barry
                With the documentaries about Adam Goodes, the racism in AFL is forever cemented in History, and cant just be forgotten or ignored like the AFL admin would like it to.

                This story, even if probably exaggerating its viewership in the US, just re-enforces how poor the whole saga was, and will haunt the AFL for a long, long time. In hindsight, knowing this wouldnt be forgotten, I bet they wished they did something substantial about it at the time.

                ‘Australia look like southern crackers’: US reacts to Adam Goodes documentary
                Thanks, barry. Interesting to see those views and tweets. I agree with you that the documentaries have made it harder to forget, ignore, or sweep under the carpet this ignominious side of Australian society.
                All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                • Blood Fever
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4044

                  Originally posted by barry
                  With the documentaries about Adam Goodes, the racism in AFL is forever cemented in History, and cant just be forgotten or ignored like the AFL admin would like it to.

                  This story, even if probably exaggerating its viewership in the US, just re-enforces how poor the whole saga was, and will haunt the AFL for a long, long time. In hindsight, knowing this wouldnt be forgotten, I bet they wished they did something substantial about it at the time.

                  ‘Australia look like southern crackers’: US reacts to Adam Goodes documentary
                  Did I read that Eddie McGuire is hosting an AFL show aimed at US audiences? Surely not in light of his comments re Goodes and in the present BLM environment,

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                  • Mel_C
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 4470

                    Originally posted by Blood Fever
                    Did I read that Eddie McGuire is hosting an AFL show aimed at US audiences? Surely not in light of his comments re Goodes and in the present BLM environment,
                    Yes unfortunately you read correctly. He infuriates me every time I see him. The other week he was back tracking about the King Kong comments saying the words came out wrong. I wanted to throw my remote at the tv!

                    It is interesting reading the comments from Americans as they don't have background knowledge of the situation.

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                    • Blood Fever
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4044

                      Originally posted by Mel_C
                      Yes unfortunately you read correctly. He infuriates me every time I see him. The other week he was back tracking about the King Kong comments saying the words came out wrong. I wanted to throw my remote at the tv!

                      It is interesting reading the comments from Americans as they don't have background knowledge of the situation.
                      Surely his involvement will come out.

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                      • Sandridge
                        Outer wing, Lake Oval
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 2065

                        Originally posted by Blood Fever
                        Did I read that Eddie McGuire is hosting an AFL show aimed at US audiences? Surely not in light of his comments re Goodes and in the present BLM environment,
                        Surely he wouldn't be that stupid? The American press/public would only need to get a whiff of what he said about Goodesy! Or find out that he was the boss of the club where Heritier Lumumba was racially abused. And the American media would have the guts to do what the AFL, Collingwood, Fox and Channel 9 didn't.

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                        • MattW
                          Veterans List
                          • May 2011
                          • 4211

                          Alex Johnson has done his knee again, too.

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                          • S.S. Bleeder
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 2165

                            Originally posted by MattW
                            You beat me to it. So sad. Surely it's time for him to call it a day. His mental strength during his career has been amazing. I have no doubt that had he had an injury free career that he would be the backman in our team.
                            Last edited by S.S. Bleeder; 26 June 2020, 02:58 PM.

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                            • goswannies
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 3049

                              Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                              You beat me to it. So sad. Surely it's time for him to call it a day. His mental strength during his career has been amazing. I have no doubt that had he had an injury free career that he would be the backman in our team.
                              That. Is. Tragic.

                              I have been scouring the Internet but can’t find an answer. Surely. Surely. AJ must hold the world record for the most ACL injuries ever?

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                              • Ruck'n'Roll
                                Ego alta, ergo ictus
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 3990

                                This is beyond sad it's almost masochistic

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