2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • 707
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2009
    • 6204

    GWS are swimming in high quality mids and will probably add another in Green. What they want in addition to Green is either ruckman Jackson or HBF Young.

    By grabbing Crows pick 4, regardless of what Melbourne do (unless they bid on Green, fingers crossed) GWS will get one of those two plus Green. This trade with Adelaide actually strengthens our position as Crows now don't pick before us. Loving the pick trades this year, exciting stuff. Can only pray GWS come a cropper having paid dearly for their positioning.

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16739

      Originally posted by 707
      GWS are swimming in high quality mids and will probably add another in Green. What they want in addition to Green is either ruckman Jackson or HBF Young.

      By grabbing Crows pick 4, regardless of what Melbourne do (unless they bid on Green, fingers crossed) GWS will get one of those two plus Green. This trade with Adelaide actually strengthens our position as Crows now don't pick before us. Loving the pick trades this year, exciting stuff. Can only pray GWS come a cropper having paid dearly for their positioning.
      I don't think it strengthens our position. It means we'll get the sixth choice of player. If GWS hadn't traded up we might have got the fifth or sixth choice of player, depending on whether Adelaide or Melbourne bid for Green. What this means in reality (because all that matters in the end is the player, not the pick they were chosen at) depends on whether the Giants are more or less likely than the Crows were to choice the player(s) that Sydney is most interested in.

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      • AB Swannie
        Senior Player
        • Mar 2017
        • 1579

        Two main possibilities now:

        1. Melbourne bid on Green completely stuffing GWS up. They have to use pick 4 to match losing the ability to pick up another top pick.
        2. Green gets to the Swans pick and we bid. GWS then match chewing up all their remaining picks plus going into severe deficit for 2020.

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        • Scottee
          Senior Player
          • Aug 2003
          • 1585

          I have a gut feeling we get Green.

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          We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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          • Melbourne_Blood
            Senior Player
            • May 2010
            • 3312

            2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

            Originally posted by Scottee
            I have a gut feeling we get Green.

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            How do you see that unfolding Scottee? We bid at 5 and GWS don’t match ? Seems outrageous , particularly if they have already snagged a top 4 pick prior to us bidding , which seems an extremely likely scenario now.


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            • Melbourne_Blood
              Senior Player
              • May 2010
              • 3312

              We need our boy Stuey Dew and his recruiting team at the suns to bid on Greene at 1, that would really screw the Giants !


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              • Auntie.Gerald
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2009
                • 6474

                should we trade up to pick 3 now that gWS have shown their hand ?

                What would Melbourne want in return if keen at all ?
                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                  should we trade up to pick 3 now that gWS have shown their hand ?

                  What would Melbourne want in return if keen at all ?
                  I've said we should do this from the minute GWS first traded up. Hope we find a way to get Green ... It's going to hurt them to match if we bid on him at pick 5

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                  • Auntie.Gerald
                    Veterans List
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6474

                    What would get it across the line with melb ?

                    I’m guessing gws approached melb prior to Adelaide to trade for pick 3 ? And if so they couldnt agree ?
                    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                    • barry
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8499

                      Originally posted by AB Swannie
                      Why would they deal with us if they are dealing with Adelaide. We possibly offered them the same deal. Why does that make us dumb? It would be dumb of GWS not to do the deal with Adelaide.
                      There was talk earlier in this thread that GWS would give us there 2nd rounder next year. That's better for GWS and better for us. Not so good for Adelaide.
                      Someone's got to win, someone's got to miss out.

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        Originally posted by barry
                        There was talk earlier in this thread that GWS would give us there 2nd rounder next year. That's better for GWS and better for us. Not so good for Adelaide.
                        That was a hypothetical from me.

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16739

                          Originally posted by barry
                          There was talk earlier in this thread that GWS would give us there 2nd rounder next year. That's better for GWS and better for us. Not so good for Adelaide.
                          Someone's got to win, someone's got to miss out.
                          It's not better for GWS if Adelaide then bid on Green with pick 4. Which seemed entirely possible before this trade.

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                          • SeanM
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 304

                            I don't know if Melbourne will bid on Green. But if they believe GWS will definitely match, then it makes sense to bid.

                            Melbourne have got pick 8 so if GWS have to use pick 4 on Green then that means there is one extra player for Melbourne to choose from at pick 8.

                            Though if GWS don't match, I think Melbourne will still be happy to pick Green at 3 and then someone like Serong or Ash at 8.

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                            • troyjones2525
                              Swans Fanatic!
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 2908

                              Originally posted by SeanM
                              I don't know if Melbourne will bid on Green. But if they believe GWS will definitely match, then it makes sense to bid.

                              Melbourne have got pick 8 so if GWS have to use pick 4 on Green then that means there is one extra player for Melbourne to choose from at pick 8.

                              Though if GWS don't match, I think Melbourne will still be happy to pick Green at 3 and then someone like Serong or Ash at 8.
                              Clubs usually have a fair idea what each other are thinking by this stage leading up to the draft. I'm pretty sure GWS are confident that Melbourne won't bid on Green (unfortunately) which is why they pulled the trigger on the trade to move ahead of us, knowing we most definitely will be.

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                              • MattW
                                Veterans List
                                • May 2011
                                • 4195

                                Originally posted by troyjones2525
                                Clubs usually have a fair idea what each other are thinking by this stage leading up to the draft. I'm pretty sure GWS are confident that Melbourne won't bid on Green (unfortunately) which is why they pulled the trigger on the trade to move ahead of us, knowing we most definitely will be.

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                                Maybe. I think we were surprised Blakey fell as far as he did last year.

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