2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[707]

GWS are swimming in high quality mids and will probably add another in Green. What they want in addition to Green is either ruckman Jackson or HBF Young.

By grabbing Crows pick 4, regardless of what Melbourne do (unless they bid on Green, fingers crossed) GWS will get one of those two plus Green. This trade with Adelaide actually strengthens our position as Crows now don't pick before us. Loving the pick trades this year, exciting stuff. Can only pray GWS come a cropper having paid dearly for their positioning.

[liz]

GWS are swimming in high quality mids and will probably add another in Green. What they want in addition to Green is either ruckman Jackson or HBF Young.

By grabbing Crows pick 4, regardless of what Melbourne do (unless they bid on Green, fingers crossed) GWS will get one of those two plus Green. This trade with Adelaide actually strengthens our position as Crows now don't pick before us. Loving the pick trades this year, exciting stuff. Can only pray GWS come a cropper having paid dearly for their positioning.

I don't think it strengthens our position. It means we'll get the sixth choice of player. If GWS hadn't traded up we might have got the fifth or sixth choice of player, depending on whether Adelaide or Melbourne bid for Green. What this means in reality (because all that matters in the end is the player, not the pick they were chosen at) depends on whether the Giants are more or less likely than the Crows were to choice the player(s) that Sydney is most interested in.

[AB Swannie]

Two main possibilities now:

1. Melbourne bid on Green completely stuffing GWS up. They have to use pick 4 to match losing the ability to pick up another top pick.
2. Green gets to the Swans pick and we bid. GWS then match chewing up all their remaining picks plus going into severe deficit for 2020.

[Scottee]

I have a gut feeling we get Green.

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[Melbourne_Blood]

2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

I have a gut feeling we get Green.

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How do you see that unfolding Scottee? We bid at 5 and GWS don’t match ? Seems outrageous , particularly if they have already snagged a top 4 pick prior to us bidding , which seems an extremely likely scenario now.


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[Melbourne_Blood]

We need our boy Stuey Dew and his recruiting team at the suns to bid on Greene at 1, that would really screw the Giants !


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[Auntie.Gerald]

should we trade up to pick 3 now that gWS have shown their hand ?

What would Melbourne want in return if keen at all ?

[Markwebbos]

should we trade up to pick 3 now that gWS have shown their hand ?

What would Melbourne want in return if keen at all ?

I've said we should do this from the minute GWS first traded up. Hope we find a way to get Green ... It's going to hurt them to match if we bid on him at pick 5

[Auntie.Gerald]

What would get it across the line with melb ?

I’m guessing gws approached melb prior to Adelaide to trade for pick 3 ? And if so they couldnt agree ?

[barry]

Why would they deal with us if they are dealing with Adelaide. We possibly offered them the same deal. Why does that make us dumb? It would be dumb of GWS not to do the deal with Adelaide.

There was talk earlier in this thread that GWS would give us there 2nd rounder next year. That's better for GWS and better for us. Not so good for Adelaide.
Someone's got to win, someone's got to miss out.

[Markwebbos]

There was talk earlier in this thread that GWS would give us there 2nd rounder next year. That's better for GWS and better for us. Not so good for Adelaide.

That was a hypothetical from me.

[liz]

There was talk earlier in this thread that GWS would give us there 2nd rounder next year. That's better for GWS and better for us. Not so good for Adelaide.
Someone's got to win, someone's got to miss out.

It's not better for GWS if Adelaide then bid on Green with pick 4. Which seemed entirely possible before this trade.

[SeanM]

I don't know if Melbourne will bid on Green. But if they believe GWS will definitely match, then it makes sense to bid.

Melbourne have got pick 8 so if GWS have to use pick 4 on Green then that means there is one extra player for Melbourne to choose from at pick 8.

Though if GWS don't match, I think Melbourne will still be happy to pick Green at 3 and then someone like Serong or Ash at 8.

[troyjones2525]

I don't know if Melbourne will bid on Green. But if they believe GWS will definitely match, then it makes sense to bid.

Melbourne have got pick 8 so if GWS have to use pick 4 on Green then that means there is one extra player for Melbourne to choose from at pick 8.

Though if GWS don't match, I think Melbourne will still be happy to pick Green at 3 and then someone like Serong or Ash at 8.

Clubs usually have a fair idea what each other are thinking by this stage leading up to the draft. I'm pretty sure GWS are confident that Melbourne won't bid on Green (unfortunately) which is why they pulled the trigger on the trade to move ahead of us, knowing we most definitely will be.

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[MattW]

Clubs usually have a fair idea what each other are thinking by this stage leading up to the draft. I'm pretty sure GWS are confident that Melbourne won't bid on Green (unfortunately) which is why they pulled the trigger on the trade to move ahead of us, knowing we most definitely will be.

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Maybe. I think we were surprised Blakey fell as far as he did last year.