2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[barry]

I'm with Ludwig, its puzzling because Naismith is 27 in a couple of weeks, and assuming he doesn't get back on the park this year (which is looking likely) he will have played 28 matches in 6 seasons.

He's a good tap ruckman, average around the ground, and has the durability of Stephen Doyle, that's a lot of faith.

As for what we are doing with Cameron, Amartey, McClean, Knoll etc. it's a complete mystery

Donkey Doyle nearly won us a flag in '06. Don't diss the donk.

[caj23]

Donkey Doyle nearly won us a flag in '06. Don't diss the donk.

He had a lot of talent, just never stayed on the park for long enough, injuries ultimately forced him into retirement (following the Swans F/S curse!)

[bloodspirit]

Instead of Braydon Sier, how about Matthew Kennedy as another option? He's a NSW boy (Riverina/Wagga), he was a first round draft pick 4 years ago and he's not getting a game at Carlton. As alarming as that last bit sounds, maybe we could get him cheap and make something of him? He's listed at 190 cm and 88 kg and described (by Carlton FC) thusly: Kennedy’s inside-mid bullocking brings added grunt around stoppages, but he is also an aerialist who brings versatility. Here's his 2015 draft profile from afldraftcentral.com.au: 2015 Draft Profile: Matthew Kennedy - Aussie Rules Draft Central. Back in the day he was rated 6th best by Callum Twomey - 2015 draft: Phantom form guide update - AFL.com.au - and also by Knightmare aka Chris Doerre: Knightmare's 2015 Draft Almanac | BigFooty. Clearly he hasn't come on in the way expected and I can't claim to have seen him play, but maybe others have?

[Markwebbos]

It is a worry that he's not been able to get a game at the Blues!

[SeanM]

Podcast interview with Simon Dalrymple

LISTEN: The Swans' plans for their first top-10 pick in 10 years - AFL.com.au

[liz]

LISTEN: The Swans' plans for their first top-10 pick in 10 years - AFL.com.au

This is well worth a listen. (Yes, you do have to put up with Cal Twomey but he's not too bad, and Nat Edwards keeps things moving along well.) It features an interview with Simon Dalrymple and touches on:
- a brief assessment of recent players the Swans have drafted
- what the Swans' needs are for the upcoming draft
- Academy prospects over the next couple of drafts
- what makes an ideal player
- the decision making and review processes involved in drafting
- how the pick trade that landed Rowbottom came about
- medium term list management strategies

Simon doesn't give a whole lot away but it still provides some insights that I'd not heard before.

[Mark26]

LISTEN: The Swans' plans for their first top-10 pick in 10 years - AFL.com.au

This is well worth a listen. (Yes, you do have to put up with Cal Twomey but he's not too bad, and Nat Edwards keeps things moving along well.) It features an interview with Simon Dalrymple and touches on:
- a brief assessment of recent players the Swans have drafted
- what the Swans' needs are for the upcoming draft
- Academy prospects over the next couple of drafts
- what makes an ideal player
- the decision making and review processes involved in drafting
- how the pick trade that landed Rowbottom came about
- medium term list management strategies

Simon doesn't give a whole lot away but it still provides some insights that I'd not heard before.

Thanks for sharing the link. Highly recommended! If I had the chance to meet any of the Swan's staff, I'd have a coffee with Kinnear. Simon sounds like a great pick up from the Dogs. Lots of love for our recruitment / list management team here.

[Ludwig]

Some weren't sure that Rowbottom was our 2nd pick target, but SD makes it fairly clear that he was. I also got the feeling the McInerney was another target that were very pleased to get. The 2018 draft and trading is looking a strong winner for us. Whenever you get 3 quality AFL players in a draft, it's a big winner. On balance, I think we did okay in the trade period as well.

We're missing 5 key veteran players, Hanners, McVeigh, Smith, Reg and Jack, and seem to be going just fine without them. And we still have a few guys playing ressies who could come in and play a role.

It all points to a bright future and some of it is already on display.

[Aprilbr]

I listened to the podcast and found it interesting and informative. His discussion of how recruiting was now very evidence based was especially interesting. No gut feel or speculation these days.

So you say he is good inside? What are his tackle numbers, contested ball gets? So he is a good runner? What are his GPS numbers? What did he say in the interviews? Can he handle adversity? How will he go living away from mum and dad? What do his past coaches say about his strengths and weaknesses?

Recruiting has come a long way!

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[bloodspirit]

I listened to the podcast and found it interesting and informative. His discussion of how recruiting was now very evidence based was especially interesting. No gut feel or speculation these days.

So you say he is good inside? What are his tackle numbers, contested ball gets? So he is a good runner? What are his GPS numbers? What did he say in the interviews? Can he handle adversity? How will he go living away from mum and dad? What do his past coaches say about his strengths and weaknesses?

Recruiting has come a long way!

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Was also interesting that he said he reckons recruiting still has a long way to go!

[bloodspirit]

SPOILER ALERT: just in case you were wondering who the club is going to take with their "first top 10 pick in a decade" and don't have time to listen, the answer was "best available".

[Aprilbr]

Yes he said "best available" but he also made the point that midfielders would be a priority.

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[Aprilbr]

I read online today that Dawson is close to signing a multi-year deal with the Swans. Excellent news if correct. That leaves Horse and Zac Jones to work on.

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[Markwebbos]

I wonder if Horse would take $1.4 to include playing as an inside midfielder or ruckman?

[Ludwig]

I see the Swans have been linked to Tom Cutler in this AFL website article: What's the deal? 18 out-of-contract players flying under the radar - AFL.com.au

Tom Cutler - Brisbane
After a career-high 18 games last season, the 24-year-old Victorian has managed just three this season wedged between two stints in the NEAFL. Has played as a tall wingman in recent times at the Lions and can also play at half-back. Not short of suitors in his home state, Cutler has also received some interest from the Swans as they ponder different options in their midfield.

I remember when many pundits thought we would take Cutler with our pick 32 in the 2013 national draft. I would have been happy if we did take Cutler, (who went to Brisbane on the very next pick), although I was more pleased that we took Hewett instead. I also liked Kolodjasjmij at that pick, who went to Geelong at pick 41. It worked out well, because we took Aliir at pick 44.

The history behind us, I do think Cutler would be a good pickup if we could orchestrate a trade. He's a big versatile midfielder who would add to our depth to the team and could well be in mix for our best 22. We are sitting with 3 third round picks this year, including Carlton's 3rd rounder, which might be enough to pull off a trade if we make an offer to Cutler where we are his chosen club.