2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[707]

The way the comp is now you can't rule out being contenders next year so decisions need to be made with a slightly longer time frame in mind but also not closing the door on 2020.

Who is the flag favourite this year, I'd suggest any team amongst 6 or 7 could come good at the right time with the right run of luck and grab it.

[Legs Akimbo]

Read Judd's comment re interim coach David Teague. Quoted as saying he had no chance and they don't want a coach with trainer wheels on. Silly stuff. Even if true you don't have to say it and crush the guy who the players seem to be playing for. Let him apply and see what he has. Support him publically but don't make any commitment.

He's has always been given eveything on a plate. It shows in his aloof and entitled attitude. Thankfully we don't have people like that at the Swans.

[Blood Fever]

Read Judd's comment re interim coach David Teague. Quoted as saying he had no chance and they don't want a coach with trainer wheels on. Silly stuff. Even if true you don't have to say it and crush the guy who the players seem to be playing for. Let him apply and see what he has. Support him publically but don't make any commitment.

He's has always been given eveything on a plate. It shows in his aloof and entitled attitude. Thankfully we don't have people like that at the Swans.

Certainly his comments were insensitive and not mindful of the effect it could have on the club as a whole.

[barry]

Read Judd's comment re interim coach David Teague. Quoted as saying he had no chance and they don't want a coach with trainer wheels on. Silly stuff. Even if true you don't have to say it and crush the guy who the players seem to be playing for. Let him apply and see what he has. Support him publically but don't make any commitment.

He's has always been given eveything on a plate. It shows in his aloof and entitled attitude. Thankfully we don't have people like that at the Swans.

The Blues could have already made that clear to Teague. I think Judd was being refreshingly honest.

[caj23]

The Blues could have already made that clear to Teague. I think Judd was being refreshingly honest.

I don't have any issue with Judd's comments either

Back on topic, who do we think we might land/who should we be targeting with our early pick this year? No academy shenanigans to cloud the issue so hopefully we make use of what should be our first real top 5 pick for a while

[Molly dooker]

Have you read about the AFL changing the pick swap rules for this years draft to prevent anyone doing a swifty like we did for the Lizzard?

[giant]

Hey Liz

Not 100% sure Re RFA for Cunningham?

The list out of contract end of 2019 updated

Colin O'Riordan
Cody Hirst
Daniel Menzel
Darcy Cameron
Durak Tucker
Harry Cunningham RFA
Harry Reynolds signed one year extension
Hayden McLean
Heath Grundy UFA RETIRED
Jack Maibaum
Jackson Thurlow
James Bell
James Rose
Jarrad McVeigh UFA
Joel Amartey
Kieren Jack UFA
Kurt Tippett
Michael Knoll
Nick Smith UFA
Robbie Fox
Ryan Clarke
Sam Wicks
Toby Pink
Zak Jones

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Probably moving on?

Hirst
Menzel
Cameron
Grundy
Maibaum
Jack
Tippett
McVeigh
Smith
Fox

I'm fairly certain we offered Menzel a two year contract. Likewise, would be surprised if Clarke came over on 1 year contract?

[liz]

I'm fairly certain we offered Menzel a two year contract. Likewise, would be surprised if Clarke came over on 1 year contract?

Agree with you on Clarke, but I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if Menzel only got an initial one year offer.

Edit: I just did a quick search, and media outlets reported back last year that he joined on a one year deal (Menzel, that is). Here's one example of a media report

https://www.3aw.com.au/daniel-menzel-joins-the-sydney-swans/

[Markwebbos]

Have you read about the AFL changing the pick swap rules for this years draft to prevent anyone doing a swifty like we did for the Lizzard?

No. I think they'd be challenging to write.

[giant]

Agree with you on Clarke, but I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if Menzel only got an initial one year offer.

Edit: I just did a quick search, and media outlets reported back last year that he joined on a one year deal (Menzel, that is). Here's one example of a media report

Daniel Menzel joins the Sydney Swans

OK, surprised at that as I thought the Cats had offered him a year. Get the view from recent comments from Longmire that he thinks he's only just finding his way after an interrupted pre-season, so may yet get another year(if horse is still coach!). Guess next few months will tell the story.

[Molly dooker]

Take a look at the SMH website, go to Sport and then AFL link and you can read it for youself.

I tried to post hyperlink but failed, sorry.

[Markwebbos]

Here is the article, which says they intend to stop Swans style pick swapping, but doesn’t explain how they’d identify it as different from other pick swaps.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-to-make-changes-to-academy-draft-rules-20190710-p525yi.html

[707]

Ken Wood has to approve pick swaps so anything he thinks "smells" he won't approve. I think our swifty last year caught the AFL by surprise but they allowed it to go throw but at the time said that "loophole" would be closed for future drafts.

There are some highly talented players that will be available at our pick which will probably be in the 5-8 range you'd reckon. Read the profiles of them and you'd be happy with any of them, full confidence we'll get a very good player and there's still a lot to like in the low 20s where the Saints second we hold will fall.

[Cosmic Wizard]

I don't have any issue with Judd's comments either

Back on topic, who do we think we might land/who should we be targeting with our early pick this year? No academy shenanigans to cloud the issue so hopefully we make use of what should be our first real top 5 pick for a while

Lachie Ash is the player we need: we need speed of the half back line, where most goals are set up from nowadays.

186cm/80kg
Vic Country/Murray Bushrangers
Defender

Ash brings the dash. The speedy half-back lights up games with his line-breaking pace from defence. We saw that during the carnival at the MCG against Vic Metro when he darted through traffic on an 80-metre run, and again in the frantic final quarter win over South Australia, when it was Ash's brilliant get-and-go that kept Country in the game. Ash is strong and clever and can also shut down an opponent in a role that is highly regarded by AFL clubs.

[Cosmic Wizard]

And there is talk that God Coast will get a priority pick but will have to use it on mature players.

They have enough young kids, but it the retention of those kids which is the problem.

We have lots of players we can send north; Fox, Smith, Rose etc.

Anything to get another first rounder!