2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • 707
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2009
    • 6204

    The way the comp is now you can't rule out being contenders next year so decisions need to be made with a slightly longer time frame in mind but also not closing the door on 2020.

    Who is the flag favourite this year, I'd suggest any team amongst 6 or 7 could come good at the right time with the right run of luck and grab it.

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    • Legs Akimbo
      Grand Poobah
      • Apr 2005
      • 2809

      Read Judd's comment re interim coach David Teague. Quoted as saying he had no chance and they don't want a coach with trainer wheels on. Silly stuff. Even if true you don't have to say it and crush the guy who the players seem to be playing for. Let him apply and see what he has. Support him publically but don't make any commitment.

      He's has always been given eveything on a plate. It shows in his aloof and entitled attitude. Thankfully we don't have people like that at the Swans.
      He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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      • Blood Fever
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 4040

        Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
        Read Judd's comment re interim coach David Teague. Quoted as saying he had no chance and they don't want a coach with trainer wheels on. Silly stuff. Even if true you don't have to say it and crush the guy who the players seem to be playing for. Let him apply and see what he has. Support him publically but don't make any commitment.

        He's has always been given eveything on a plate. It shows in his aloof and entitled attitude. Thankfully we don't have people like that at the Swans.
        Certainly his comments were insensitive and not mindful of the effect it could have on the club as a whole.

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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
          Read Judd's comment re interim coach David Teague. Quoted as saying he had no chance and they don't want a coach with trainer wheels on. Silly stuff. Even if true you don't have to say it and crush the guy who the players seem to be playing for. Let him apply and see what he has. Support him publically but don't make any commitment.

          He's has always been given eveything on a plate. It shows in his aloof and entitled attitude. Thankfully we don't have people like that at the Swans.
          The Blues could have already made that clear to Teague. I think Judd was being refreshingly honest.

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          • caj23
            Senior Player
            • Aug 2003
            • 2462

            Originally posted by barry
            The Blues could have already made that clear to Teague. I think Judd was being refreshingly honest.
            I don't have any issue with Judd's comments either

            Back on topic, who do we think we might land/who should we be targeting with our early pick this year? No academy shenanigans to cloud the issue so hopefully we make use of what should be our first real top 5 pick for a while

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            • Molly dooker
              Lifer!
              • Jun 2007
              • 247

              Have you read about the AFL changing the pick swap rules for this years draft to prevent anyone doing a swifty like we did for the Lizzard?

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              • giant
                Veterans List
                • Mar 2005
                • 4731

                Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                Hey Liz

                Not 100% sure Re RFA for Cunningham?

                The list out of contract end of 2019 updated

                Colin O'Riordan
                Cody Hirst
                Daniel Menzel
                Darcy Cameron
                Durak Tucker
                Harry Cunningham RFA
                Harry Reynolds signed one year extension
                Hayden McLean
                Heath Grundy UFA RETIRED
                Jack Maibaum
                Jackson Thurlow
                James Bell
                James Rose
                Jarrad McVeigh UFA
                Joel Amartey
                Kieren Jack UFA
                Kurt Tippett
                Michael Knoll
                Nick Smith UFA
                Robbie Fox
                Ryan Clarke
                Sam Wicks
                Toby Pink
                Zak Jones

                ——-

                Probably moving on?

                Hirst
                Menzel
                Cameron
                Grundy
                Maibaum
                Jack
                Tippett
                McVeigh
                Smith
                Fox
                I'm fairly certain we offered Menzel a two year contract. Likewise, would be surprised if Clarke came over on 1 year contract?

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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16739

                  Originally posted by giant
                  I'm fairly certain we offered Menzel a two year contract. Likewise, would be surprised if Clarke came over on 1 year contract?
                  Agree with you on Clarke, but I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if Menzel only got an initial one year offer.

                  Edit: I just did a quick search, and media outlets reported back last year that he joined on a one year deal (Menzel, that is). Here's one example of a media report

                  Daniel Menzel has joined Sydney. The former Geelong forward has signed with the Swans as a delisted free agent. The 27-year-old has been plagued by knee injuries throughout his 73-game career. He’s signed a one-year deal. Paperwork officially lodged. Sydney Swans sign Delisted Free Agent Daniel Menzel. — AFL House (@AFL_House) November 14, 2018

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    Originally posted by Molly dooker
                    Have you read about the AFL changing the pick swap rules for this years draft to prevent anyone doing a swifty like we did for the Lizzard?
                    No. I think they'd be challenging to write.

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                    • giant
                      Veterans List
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 4731

                      Originally posted by liz
                      Agree with you on Clarke, but I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if Menzel only got an initial one year offer.

                      Edit: I just did a quick search, and media outlets reported back last year that he joined on a one year deal (Menzel, that is). Here's one example of a media report

                      Daniel Menzel joins the Sydney Swans
                      OK, surprised at that as I thought the Cats had offered him a year. Get the view from recent comments from Longmire that he thinks he's only just finding his way after an interrupted pre-season, so may yet get another year(if horse is still coach!). Guess next few months will tell the story.

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                      • Molly dooker
                        Lifer!
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 247

                        Take a look at the SMH website, go to Sport and then AFL link and you can read it for youself.

                        I tried to post hyperlink but failed, sorry.

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          Here is the article, which says they intend to stop Swans style pick swapping, but doesn’t explain how they’d identify it as different from other pick swaps.

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                          • 707
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6204

                            Ken Wood has to approve pick swaps so anything he thinks "smells" he won't approve. I think our swifty last year caught the AFL by surprise but they allowed it to go throw but at the time said that "loophole" would be closed for future drafts.

                            There are some highly talented players that will be available at our pick which will probably be in the 5-8 range you'd reckon. Read the profiles of them and you'd be happy with any of them, full confidence we'll get a very good player and there's still a lot to like in the low 20s where the Saints second we hold will fall.

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                            • Cosmic Wizard
                              recruit me pretty please!
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 620

                              Originally posted by caj23
                              I don't have any issue with Judd's comments either

                              Back on topic, who do we think we might land/who should we be targeting with our early pick this year? No academy shenanigans to cloud the issue so hopefully we make use of what should be our first real top 5 pick for a while
                              Lachie Ash is the player we need: we need speed of the half back line, where most goals are set up from nowadays.

                              186cm/80kg
                              Vic Country/Murray Bushrangers
                              Defender

                              Ash brings the dash. The speedy half-back lights up games with his line-breaking pace from defence. We saw that during the carnival at the MCG against Vic Metro when he darted through traffic on an 80-metre run, and again in the frantic final quarter win over South Australia, when it was Ash's brilliant get-and-go that kept Country in the game. Ash is strong and clever and can also shut down an opponent in a role that is highly regarded by AFL clubs.
                              doof-doof

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                              • Cosmic Wizard
                                recruit me pretty please!
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 620

                                And there is talk that God Coast will get a priority pick but will have to use it on mature players.

                                They have enough young kids, but it the retention of those kids which is the problem.

                                We have lots of players we can send north; Fox, Smith, Rose etc.

                                Anything to get another first rounder!
                                doof-doof

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