2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Blood Fever]

Naismith should've been delisted. Always injured and when he played (3 years ago?) offered absolutely nothing around the park. The game has moved to the point where the ruckman needs a sufficient engine to play as an additional midfielder and also provide a target forward whilst "resting". Happy to be proven wrong when he comes back but I have serious reservations about him as our number 1 ruck. Preuss would be a great option - he comes from a rugby background so would feel at home in Sydney (although he is a Queenslander!)

Naismith used to get first hands on the ball and his agility around the ground was pretty good. Hopefully he can get back to that standard although it was a while ago now.

[Ralph Dawg]

Naismith used to get first hands on the ball and his agility around the ground was pretty good. Hopefully he can get back to that standard although it was a while ago now.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Towelled up by Zac Smith and Ben McEvoy around the park, both not noted for having big engines. If you look at his game stats, hit outs aside, they are ordinary. He will be a passenger in the modern game, unless he can tap it into our kids laps virtually every time.

[Hotpotato]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/swa...15-p527d2.html

McHack is injured again.
We won't see him play in the red & whites again, me thinks.

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How about just scrubbing this post please mods... it’s totally inappropriate .

[Auntie.Gerald]

It wouldn’t be impossible to move on Sinclair and or Naismith to get Grundy but that would pretty much have to happen to ensure $ available

Sinkers just signed on for two years till 2021 and Naismith has another year or two ?

Grundy would be an absolute ideal opportunity for us though and would give us a great advantage in the ruck and dominating from clearance

To me seems like a long shot sadly

[Blood Fever]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Towelled up by Zac Smith and Ben McEvoy around the park, both not noted for having big engines. If you look at his game stats, hit outs aside, they are ordinary. He will be a passenger in the modern game, unless he can tap it into our kids laps virtually every time.

Was very good when we hammered Cats in 2016 PF

[Ralph Dawg]

Was very good when we hammered Cats in 2016 PF

I'll confess, can't remember the match in clear detail except we won!
The stats say he got 4 disposals, kicked 1:1 and had 18 hit outs. Tippett contributed 4 hit outs.
Blicavs got 13 disposals, 17 hit outs, Stanley 11 and 11 with 1 goal, Smith 5 and 18.
Looks like the cats won the hit outs pretty convincingly yet we smashed them all the same. Let's hope that happens tonight!

[Blood Fever]

I'll confess, can't remember the match in clear detail except we won!
The stats say he got 4 disposals, kicked 1:1 and had 18 hit outs. Tippett contributed 4 hit outs.
Blicavs got 13 disposals, 17 hit outs, Stanley 11 and 11 with 1 goal, Smith 5 and 18.
Looks like the cats won the hit outs pretty convincingly yet we smashed them all the same. Let's hope that happens tonight!

Impressive analytics RD! Not always the full story. Grundy a pipe dream but we do need something.

[royboy42]

No. Not yet. Just out of contract.

I reckon the chances of him leaving Collingwood in the near future are very low, while the chances of him leaving Melbourne (big footy city) to move to Sydney (small footy city, not home) are close to zero.

I totally and whole heartedly agree.

But I said the same thing about one Lance Franklin a few years ago.

Lightning strikes only once?? I fear so.

[liz]

I totally and whole heartedly agree.

But I said the same thing about one Lance Franklin a few years ago.

Lightning strikes only once?? I fear so.

I don't think it was a surprise Franklin wanting out of Melbourne. I was surprised he came to us because I didn't think we'd be able to fit him into the cap, but he clearly wasn't enjoying the media focus on him (off-field). Hall was similar (proving that lightning can strike twice).

Grundy is younger and doesn't attract unwanted off-field attention from the media. He's not in a situation where getting out of the spotlight would appear to be a factor.

[Ralph Dawg]

I totally and whole heartedly agree.

But I said the same thing about one Lance Franklin a few years ago.

Lightning strikes only once?? I fear so.

We shouldn't sell the house to get Grundy. If he wants to come, then of course it would be negligent not to explore options but to entice him to us, it would cost so much.
In my opinion, we are one KP defender, one mid with elite disposal, one competitive ruckman to support Sinclair and one zippy small forward away from being a top side. If we through the lot a Grundy, still won't cover the deficiencies around the rest of the park.

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[Blood Fever]

We shouldn't sell the house to get Grundy. If he wants to come, then of course it would be negligent not to explore options but to entice him to us, it would cost so much.
In my opinion, we are one KP defender, one mid with elite disposal, one competitive ruckman to support Sinclair and one zippy small forward away from being a top side. If we through the lot a Grundy, still won't cover the deficiencies around the rest of the park.

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Good points. Watched Pies v Giants. Grundy monstered Mumford and had 30 disposals but Cwood lost by heaps because of dominance elsewhere.

[MattW]

We shouldn't sell the house to get Grundy. If he wants to come, then of course it would be negligent not to explore options but to entice him to us, it would cost so much.
In my opinion, we are one KP defender, one mid with elite disposal, one competitive ruckman to support Sinclair and one zippy small forward away from being a top side. If we through the lot a Grundy, still won't cover the deficiencies around the rest of the park.

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Ruck is our biggest deficiency. I don't think we can seriously compete playing Sinclair as our first choice ruck.

[707]

I don't think it was a surprise Franklin wanting out of Melbourne. I was surprised he came to us because I didn't think we'd be able to fit him into the cap, but he clearly wasn't enjoying the media focus on him (off-field). Hall was similar (proving that lightning can strike twice).

Grundy is younger and doesn't attract unwanted off-field attention from the media. He's not in a situation where getting out of the spotlight would appear to be a factor.

Wouldn't want to join the Crows, can't go out in public there!

After last nights result and looking through the remaining matches, and a lot of water to go under the bridge in this year of upsets but I'd say pick 5 is just about a lock. Rowell and Anderson consensus 1 & 2 but some very impressive types after that. 2009 was the last time we had a pick this high, albeit we got high draft pick talents in Heeney, Mills and Blakey but we knew they were being selected/matched.

Trading will be an interesting time for us this year, doubt there will be any more fringe types brought in, do we have something bigger in mind?

[Ralph Dawg]

Ruck is our biggest deficiency. I don't think we can seriously compete playing Sinclair as our first choice ruck.

What aspect of the ruck are you referring to? Sinclair competes well around the ground, knows his way around goals. Yes, he gets beaten in the hit outs but is that really important? Grundy gets first tap constantly yet the pies are not exactly setting the world on fire. Ditto Gawn and the Dees. Last night Freo dominated the ruck contest yet only beat us by 1, in a game that we otherwise competed well. If the tap was so important, McLean v Sandi / Lobb / Darcy should've translated into a flogging. The tap is over rated and not worth selling the farm to attain by chasing Grundy. Preuss, R O'Brien maybe Archie Smith would be more sensible.

[Markwebbos]

What aspect of the ruck are you referring to? Sinclair competes well around the ground, knows his way around goals. Yes, he gets beaten in the hit outs but is that really important? Grundy gets first tap constantly yet the pies are not exactly setting the world on fire. Ditto Gawn and the Dees. Last night Freo dominated the ruck contest yet only beat us by 1, in a game that we otherwise competed well. If the tap was so important, McLean v Sandi / Lobb / Darcy should've translated into a flogging. The tap is over rated and not worth selling the farm to attain by chasing Grundy. Preuss, R O'Brien maybe Archie Smith would be more sensible.

Sinclair shouldn't be our #1 ruck (well he only is by default). Having a good ruckman does make a difference, just not as much as some would make out.

With McLean v three ruckmen, we got smashed in the clearances last night. Yet should have won the game if we'd kicked straight. Imagine if we'd broken even in the clearances and had a functioning forward line!

I'm assuming McLean'll stay in next week after that performance. He should go better against Stanley (who is "only" 200cm).

Very pleasantly surprised that the coaches played him in the ruck and played Reid and Aliir in their normal positions.