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  • Nico
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 11329

    Maybe another club will make a bid for Melican.
    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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    • 707
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2009
      • 6204

      Originally posted by mcs
      Has anyone seen any actual evidence to suggest there is strong validity to the Papley trade claims? Been thrown around a lot, but I've seen nothing to strongly suggest it is actually true (Maybe I've just missed it).
      You've missed nothing. Some journo a few months back found out Papley had a girlfriend in Melbourne. Said journo had nothing interesting to write about that week so concocted a Papley will seek trade "home" story.

      Every other journo and BF posters have ridden it hard ever since, all on the back of ........ nothing really. Think Papley and the club are having a giggle at it bubbling along! Contracted player emotionally invested in the club, girlfriend if she does exist can move away from those freezing Melbourne winters and head to Sydney.

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      Originally posted by Nico
      Maybe another club will make a bid for Melican.
      Why?

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      Originally posted by mattybloods
      Another Lion I'm interested in is Josh Walker. Fills a gap in our KPD stocks, only not getting a game due to Marcus Adams coming in. Would also be cheap
      List clogger

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      • 707
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2009
        • 6204

        Originally posted by Markwebbos
        I propose a deal on RWO. If we expect Hayward to be precise and kick straight, then we should all try to spell his name correctly.
        It's easy, it rhymes with wayward, just use an H instead of a W

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        • dimelb
          pr. dim-melb; m not f
          • Jun 2003
          • 6889

          Originally posted by 707
          It's easy, it rhymes with wayward, just use an H instead of a W
          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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          • dimelb
            pr. dim-melb; m not f
            • Jun 2003
            • 6889

            Originally posted by royboy42
            No, No. I still have Tadgh Keneally nightmares. I got it right eventually, but now can't remember what's right.
            I had same problems until someone on this site pointed out that Tadhg finished with HG - you know, as in Nelson! And no a in Kennelly.
            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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            • waswan
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2015
              • 2047

              Melican, 23yr old who has played 36 games mostly defending a Key Forward
              Cant name many other Key Defenders as good at his age
              Possibly one of the last players on the list that would be considered for trading

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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                I see that Cedric Cox has made the Lions' senior team this week, so maybe he's on the way into the side.

                But Mabior Chol has been dropped for Noah Balta at Richmond. With no injuries, Chol could miss out on finals and becomes a more viable target. A little bit speculative, but I think he can fill a lot of weaknesses that could evolve at the Swans, especially in the ruck.

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                • Blood Fever
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4040

                  Originally posted by Ludwig
                  I see that Cedric Cox has made the Lions' senior team this week, so maybe he's on the way into the side.

                  But Mabior Chol has been dropped for Noah Balta at Richmond. With no injuries, Chol could miss out on finals and becomes a more viable target. A little bit speculative, but I think he can fill a lot of weaknesses that could evolve at the Swans, especially in the ruck.
                  Would be a good get. Huge upside.

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                  • Ralph Dawg
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 1729

                    Originally posted by waswan
                    Melican, 23yr old who has played 36 games mostly defending a Key Forward
                    Cant name many other Key Defenders as good at his age
                    Possibly one of the last players on the list that would be considered for trading
                    I agree. He has lost a few battles but considering the number of games where our midfield has been smashed and our defence inundated with inside 50s, he's done pretty well. I think he can work on defending on the lead but his disposal is pretty good. I reckon he'll become a good KPD for us.

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                    • S.S. Bleeder
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 2165

                      Originally posted by waswan
                      Melican, 23yr old who has played 36 games mostly defending a Key Forward
                      Cant name many other Key Defenders as good at his age
                      Possibly one of the last players on the list that would be considered for trading
                      Can't work out the lack of love for Melican. He's so young and was fantastic last year. He's been injured this year and all of a sudden he's "no good"?

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                      • Mark26
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 1535

                        Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                        Can't work out the lack of love for Melican. He's so young and was fantastic last year. He's been injured this year and all of a sudden he's "no good"?
                        Melican is a keeper. He's still young and progressing well.

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                        • Auntie.Gerald
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6474

                          Conor McKenna | Essendon Bombers | Player profile, AFL contract, stats and news | Zero Hanger

                          How exciting is young Irishman Connor mkenna off the HBF for the bombers

                          I thought he was out of contract but another two years at the bombers

                          34 disposals tonight against the bombers
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • bloodspirit
                            Clubman
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 4448

                            These are our out of contract players: Joel Amartey, James Bell, Darcy Cameron, Robbie Fox, Cody Hirst, Zak Jones, Michael Knoll, Jack Maibaum, Hayden McLean, Daniel Menzel, Toby Pink, James Rose, Durak Tucker. Thurlow is not on the chopping block this year.

                            Of these the one I think most likely to be delisted is Rose. Wouldn't surprise to see him redrafted elsewhere.

                            Jones and Cameron may get traded (prefer we retain them).

                            Bell sure to be retained.

                            Amartey, Pink, McLean all young and seem to have done enough to be retained but not confident they all will be.

                            According to afl.com.au Knoll has been given a 12 month contract.

                            I would think we would keep Tucker because we haven't seen anything of him yet and we knew we wouldn't when we drafted him so unless he's been homesick or shown disciplinary issues or something surely we give him another go? That and the fact he was rated as a gun, possibly first round pick before he did his ACL.

                            I reckon we give Menzel another season - we need his experience and goal kicking nous. Hopefully he'll get a better run at it.

                            Hirst I'd guess probably hasn't done enough to get a contract ahead of another draftee.

                            Which leaves Maibaum and Fox who I think could go either way. I'd be more optimistic for Maibaum if he hadn't seemed to be such a borderline re-signing 12 months ago. Their prospects may also depend on whether anyone gets traded out and how many spots we need to clear on our list. Maibaum maybe we de-list and then re-sign (maybe as a rookie?) depending on whether we draft or trade in any other KPDs?

                            We have 4 retiring. But we have three players beyond our usual list size (help me out here, is it 38-40 on the main list and up to 7 rookies?) who we picked up in pre-season supplemental draft and mid-season draft: McLean, Knoll, Hirst. And we have Barry O'Connor contracted and coming in - so it looks like we will need to clear some more spots beyond the retirees.

                            I think we are obliged to draft at least 3 players and more likely to draft 4 (maybe the last one might be a promotion for a 3rd year rookie like Pink). And you'd think we would draft at least 1 and more likely 2 fresh rookies.

                            That's before we get to trade. If we trade in more than we trade out, that's more space that has to be cleared.

                            I'm can't do the maths but there are going to be some delistings apart from the retirements and probably more than just Rose and Hirst.
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                            • Aprilbr
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2016
                              • 1803

                              Clubs are pretty ruthless with their de-listings these days so I suspect that any we think are a possibility to go will probably go. Despite today's win we are still way off the better teams. Our coaches know this.

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                              • Doctor
                                Bay 29
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 2757

                                Originally posted by Markwebbos
                                I propose a deal on RWO. If we expect Hayward to be precise and kick straight, then we should all try to spell his name correctly.
                                It follows a long tradition of people spelling Hannebery's name incorrectly for 10 years. It's not hard, just look it up!!
                                Today's a draft of your epitaph

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