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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    Can't understand the anti-Gws slant being applied. Let's call it as it is, very astute trading.
    So they wipe out a few speculator picks at the back end of the draft. Big deal.
    They may not be finished yet, in that they trade next year's 2nd rounder for a few late picks this year so they don't go into debt.
    Then any player offload for early picks next year, means they keep those picks.

    Also giants are in the premiership window. Take guns this year is the sooner they play in the seniors.

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    Their will be a Vic backlash against the giants after this. Not sure how it will play out, but expect some AFL retribution.

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    The premiership runners up, have been able to get two top 5 picks in the draft!

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    • AnnieH
      RWOs Black Sheep
      • Aug 2006
      • 11332

      Have they had the draft yet?
      Have I missed anything special?
      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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      • Markwebbos
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2016
        • 7186

        Originally posted by AnnieH
        Have they had the draft yet?
        Have I missed anything special?
        Yes, last night, the first round.
        We bid on Tom Green, Giants matched and we got Sam Flanders!

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        • bloodspirit
          Clubman
          • Apr 2015
          • 4448

          Daniher says he was interested to come to Sydney to get a fresh start after his injury history with his groin more so than to escape any fishbowl existence in Melbourne: Joe speaks: Find out why Daniher requested a trade to Sydney - AFL.com.au. Don't know what this means in terms of maybe getting him next year.
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          • stevoswan
            Veterans List
            • Sep 2014
            • 8545

            Originally posted by bloodspirit
            Daniher says he was interested to come to Sydney to get a fresh start after his injury history with his groin more so than to escape any fishbowl existence in Melbourne: Joe speaks: Find out why Daniher requested a trade to Sydney - AFL.com.au. Don't know what this means in terms of maybe getting him next year.
            .....or he was bullsh**ing to make his return to the Bombers less stressful. Injury seems to me to be a pretty lame reason for wanting a change of club.....unless he blames bad injury management at Essendon for his groin predicament.

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            • dejavoodoo44
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2015
              • 8497

              Originally posted by Markwebbos
              Yes, last night, the first round.
              We bid on Tom Green, Giants matched and we got Sam Flanders!
              And now that Tippett is fully rested, we're probably going to use pick 82 on him tonight.

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              • Markwebbos
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2016
                • 7186

                Originally posted by bloodspirit
                Daniher says he was interested to come to Sydney to get a fresh start after his injury history with his groin more so than to escape any fishbowl existence in Melbourne: Joe speaks: Find out why Daniher requested a trade to Sydney - AFL.com.au. Don't know what this means in terms of maybe getting him next year.
                This is quite different to Damian Barrett's version of events: BARRETT: The inside story of the Daniher debacle - AFL.com.au

                "Daniher found himself out the front of the Balmain home of Sydney chief executive Tom Harley on July 25, largely due to a deep loathing of the constant public intrusion and interest in his private life in Melbourne. Sydney – the city and the club – was his path to enlivening a once free but clearly shackled spirit. The monotony of two seasons of injury rehabilitation sessions at the Bombers had understandably further eroded his zest, leaving him feeling isolated from club pursuits and with little purpose..."



                Has Papley spoken to the press since his failed trade request?

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                Originally posted by stevoswan
                .....or he was bullsh**ing to make his return to the Bombers less stressful. Injury seems to me to be a pretty lame reason for wanting a change of club.....unless he blames bad injury management at Essendon for his groin predicament.
                Didn't he say that injury management was NOT the issue at the time? I'm sure he has a spin doctor working on his public statements
                Last edited by liz; 21 November 2019, 02:15 PM. Reason: Please don't post extensively from articles on other sites. Provide a short extract - paragraph - and then a link

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                • dejavoodoo44
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 8497

                  Originally posted by stevoswan
                  .....or he was bullsh**ing to make his return to the Bombers less stressful. Injury seems to me to be a pretty lame reason for wanting a change of club.....unless he blames bad injury management at Essendon for his groin predicament.
                  Yes, either he's saying that there's something wrong with Essendon's medical staff, or he's just crapping on.

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                    Yes, either he's saying that there's something wrong with Essendon's medical staff, or he's just crapping on.
                    In the Age version of the Daniher interview, JD is taking a lot of the responsibility. Feels like he's singing from a prepared songsheet: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...21-p53cmu.html
                    Last edited by liz; 21 November 2019, 02:16 PM. Reason: Please don't post extensively from articles on other sites. Provide a short extract - paragraph - and then a link

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                    • Ralph Dawg
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 1729

                      Just watched an interview with Sam Flanders. He describes himself as "playing on the edge" and admires Toby Greene and Petracca. His highlights package shows he can extract the ball, maybe not too slick in the disposal but what is impressive is his ability to float forward and take a mark. Doesn't look like he has next level speed. Wonder if he's too similar to Dawson, Mills and Hewett? Still favouring Ash.

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                      • Mr Magoo
                        Senior Player
                        • May 2008
                        • 1255

                        Just love how somone has to explain why they want to leave an establishment club as if it was some mortal sin but players heading back to melbourne simply trott out the "go home" factor and its accepted without a whimper.

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                        • O'Reilly Boy
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 474

                          Originally posted by Faunac8
                          Are we really that slow ? And just wondered how much value we should place on the opinion of some one who coached us to 18 straight losses before we sacked him and had a total winning percentage of around 12%. Yes I know we didn’t have a great list at the time but even the Suns boast an overall winning percentage of twice that
                          We seem regularly to shed players with pace—Jetta and Rohan come to mind. We have struggled to find positions for those players, and it has been interesting to see Jetta settle at HB and Rowan as deep forward for their new clubs.

                          ones is quick, and was fun to watch breaking lines from HB, albeit exasperating. I'm not convinced that he did what we needed in terms of an explosive clearance player in the midfield, and think that we looked better when Rowbottom came into the team: good hands and a handy kick are as useful as sheer pace in making fast play (cf Tom Mitchell).

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                          Originally posted by Markwebbos
                          In the Age version of the Daniher interview, JD is taking a lot of the responsibility. Feels like he's singing from a prepared songsheet: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...21-p53cmu.html

                          The whole thing is like watching dueling spin doctors.
                          Last edited by liz; 21 November 2019, 02:16 PM. Reason: Edited quoted text

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                          • dejavoodoo44
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 8497

                            Originally posted by Markwebbos
                            In the Age version of the Daniher interview, JD is taking a lot of the responsibility. Feels like he's singing from a prepared songsheet: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...21-p53cmu.html
                            Yes, interesting difference in what quotes were used in the two articles. The Age article definitely has more emphasis on Daniher taking personal responsibility, for some of the counterproductive decision making during his rehab. Although neither report questions, why he thought that a move to Sydney would improve his decision making, or his injury management.

                            Also, the fact that he's now stopped running, after not being able to cope with the increased load, strengthens my opinion, that we may have dodged a bullet when they move fell through.
                            Last edited by liz; 21 November 2019, 02:17 PM. Reason: Edited quoted text

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                            • dejavoodoo44
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 8497

                              Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                              Just watched an interview with Sam Flanders. He describes himself as "playing on the edge" and admires Toby Greene and Petracca. His highlights package shows he can extract the ball, maybe not too slick in the disposal but what is impressive is his ability to float forward and take a mark. Doesn't look like he has next level speed. Wonder if he's too similar to Dawson, Mills and Hewett? Still favouring Ash.
                              Admiration of Toby Greene is a bit of a negative for me.

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                              • Ralph Dawg
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 1729

                                Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                                Admiration of Toby Greene is a bit of a negative for me.
                                If he is as good as Toby and we get him, I could live with it...............

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