2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Melbourne_Blood
    Senior Player
    • May 2010
    • 3312

    Originally posted by wolftone57
    I so agree with this. So called professionalism has been detrimental to the game. Players are no longer enjoying the game the way we used to. They know that success or the lack of it may mean the end of their careers.

    I shudder every time Bruce or that old Full Forward start talking about Aboriginal magic. It makes me very uncomfortable. Why? Because it is racial profiling. I prefer to take players on their merits. Yes I sometimes compare players to others who have come before them but not on a racial basis. Sometimes there will be an Indigenous player who reminds me of another Indigenous player. Bell reminds me of a young Mickey I.

    But Sydney Stack reminds me of a bloke called Jimmy Rawson who played for Glenelg in the '70's. He was white not Indigenous. For me who players remind me of is

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    Mickey O’s nickname is a shortened version of “black Magic”. I see what your saying but I’m not sure I agree. I guess I would like to hear how indigenous players fans fell about it, if they had an issue then sure , don’t say it. But just because someone from outside the culture believes it’s a little Politically incorrect , doesn’t necessarily make it so.


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    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6474

      interestingly in an interview with Tony Bamford coach of the SA U18s team he discussed the experiment with Will Gould playing some midfield and said Will found it a little unfamiliar but did say Gould is a very good forward as he was in the 16s as a FF..........but feels that Gould is best behind the ball in defence
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • Aprilbr
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2016
        • 1803

        Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
        interestingly in an interview with Tony Bamford coach of the SA U18s team he discussed the experiment with Will Gould playing some midfield and said Will found it a little unfamiliar but did say Gould is a very good forward as he was in the 16s as a FF..........but feels that Gould is best behind the ball in defence
        It will be interesting to see what they do with him. Based on what little we kniw of him at present, our first challenge will be to build his running capacity up to AFL level.

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        • Nico
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 11329

          Originally posted by wolftone57
          His girlfriend is a nurse in Melbourne. This is the major driving factor. Reportedly, she will not consider moving to Sydney

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          I think we should make him play out his contract and let him go. With hindsight us older folk can see that Tom's time away from Melbourne is but a short part of his and her lives, but many live for the moment. I am sure she could walk into a job at a hospital in Sydney. He is clearly the major bread winner but the problem for us is he can be the major bread winner in Melbourne. I wonder if he had a high paying professional occupation in Sydney whether the situation would be different.
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          • Markwebbos
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            It’s clear RWO needs to intervene and find him a Sydney based girlfriend. Any takers?

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            • caj23
              Senior Player
              • Aug 2003
              • 2462

              I'm not necessarily sure that the girlfriend is the sole deciding factor, reading between the lines there may be something more to it than that (although I could be wrong of course!)

              What female in her early 20's wouldn't want to come and live in Sydney for a few years with their highly paid AFL boyfriend??

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              • Sandrevan
                Warming the Bench
                • May 2016
                • 355

                Originally posted by caj23
                I'm not necessarily sure that the girlfriend is the sole deciding factor, reading between the lines there may be something more to it than that (although I could be wrong of course!)

                What female in her early 20's wouldn't want to come and live in Sydney for a few years with their highly paid AFL boyfriend??
                I wondered about this too.

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                • bloodspirit
                  Clubman
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 4448

                  Champion data rated our draft haul but raise question marks about our not drafting anyone to start in the centre square: AFL Video - AFL.com.au. They raise the valid point that it will be "interesting" to see how we address this in the year ahead. I tend to think we'll be ok provided the injury gods are kind to us but if we get a couple of midfielders out we will learn a lot.
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                  • rb4x
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 968

                    Maybe left field but I wonder about starting Rampe in the centre. I know he would be missed in the backs but I think he could be a real weapon in the midfield.

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                    • Nico
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 11329

                      Originally posted by rb4x
                      Maybe left field but I wonder about starting Rampe in the centre. I know he would be missed in the backs but I think he could be a real weapon in the midfield.
                      Nup. This comes up every year at this time. Don't rob Peter to pay Paul. If they were going to do it would've done it by now.
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                      • wolftone57
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 5835

                        2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

                        Last year players who were tipped to spend more time in the mids did not for a variety of reasons. Mills had to stay back due to injuries to Grundy, Smith and Macca. Heeney spent nearly all season forward due to an injury he sustained in either the first or second games. Will Hayward was injured almost all season and therefore, at different times Rowbottom and Apley played more forward time.

                        We have drafted some outside talent but traded in hard mids. Taylor is tough as is Grey. In the 2020 Daft we will pick up Gulden and Campbell, both inside mids although both can also play forward.

                        Hewett became the mid we knew he could last year. Parker is not dead yet, his back half of he season was very good. Dawson has a big body and can pinch hit in there too. I think we will be ok
                        Last edited by wolftone57; 17 December 2019, 05:55 PM. Reason: Forgot two players

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                        • Mel_C
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 4470

                          The Herald Sun has reported that Kinnear Beatson is going to extend his contract with us and that Carlton have missed out ????. I can't read the full article but this is excellent news.

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                          • SeanM
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 304

                            In the lead up to the draft when we were figuring out who we should take with our first pick. I kept visualising taking a player like Rowbottom more so than Kennedy. Someone who can tackle and win the ball but also has good hands, mobility and decision making. I think the Devon Robertson was closest player with those attributes. But we have still got Rowbottom for another few years and I am happy with Stephens. I am relieved we did not draft Flanders just because we felt we had to draft a mature body mid.

                            I think we will cope even with midfield injuries. As mentioned our increased depth in other areas allows us to move Mills/Heeney/Gray into midfield if required. And a first year draftee probably was not going to have a immediate impact as an inside midfielder anyway.

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                            • Auntie.Gerald
                              Veterans List
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6474

                              It's been interesting going back and watching all the under18 state games

                              Flanders did surprise me in the end

                              Better then I thought but not what we need in comparison to Dylan Stephens
                              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                              • wolftone57
                                Veterans List
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 5835

                                Originally posted by caj23
                                I'm not necessarily sure that the girlfriend is the sole deciding factor, reading between the lines there may be something more to it than that (although I could be wrong of course!)

                                What female in her early 20's wouldn't want to come and live in Sydney for a few years with their highly paid AFL boyfriend??
                                It wasn't the sole factor obviously. There was an illness in the family I am led to believe by someone closer than us. But the girlfriend thing is important too. Some people from Melbourne, including my nieces and nephews, would not think happily about a life in Sydney. Melburnians generally don't want to move to Sydney. Many do of course, to further their career or for other reasons, and become Sydneysiders. But if you took a survey of Melbournites on moving to Sydney I'm pretty confident it would be in the negative. This is why the Melbourne go home factor is so huge compared to WA or SA. What's more it is compounded when they are from the Bush near Melbourne

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