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  • jono2707
    Goes up to 11
    • Oct 2007
    • 3326

    #46
    Originally posted by barry
    Eddie comments are being taken too far. Everyone justs needs to relax.
    Don't you dare tell me or anyone else to relax.

    Eddie was being a dick on national TV and he has rightly been called out about it.

    I'll just leave this bit of Andrew Pridham's statement for you, S.S. Bleeder and anyone else who thinks Eddie's words were anything else but inappropriate, callous and bullying:

    "Cynthia is an amazing woman. Courageous, humble and inspiring. She does not deserve to be spoken about on national television in that way. No one does."

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    • barry
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 8499

      #47
      Originally posted by jono2707
      Don't you dare tell me or anyone else to relax.

      Eddie was being a dick on national TV and he has rightly been called out about it.

      I'll just leave this bit of Andrew Pridham's statement for you, S.S. Bleeder and anyone else who thinks Eddie's words were anything else but inappropriate, callous and bullying:

      "Cynthia is an amazing woman. Courageous, humble and inspiring. She does not deserve to be spoken about on national television in that way. No one does."
      What he said was dumb, he apologized. Move on.

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      • jono2707
        Goes up to 11
        • Oct 2007
        • 3326

        #48
        Originally posted by barry
        What he said was dumb, he apologized. Move on.
        Gee thanks for the advice that's very helpful of you.

        He'll do it again.

        Some people don't learn.

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        • dejavoodoo44
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2015
          • 8491

          #49
          Originally posted by Ludwig
          Eddie should be the Official AFL Tosser.

          I think he already is!
          I hope there'll be a trophy. I'll even settle for an official portrait.

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          • Blood Fever
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 4040

            #50
            Originally posted by barry
            Eddie comments are being taken too far. Everyone justs needs to relax.

            And I don't think the 100m free was wrong or changed our momentum.

            Crows were better.

            3 facts.
            You could argue McGuire's comments have been taken too far, especially if this was an isolated incident. He claims he only looked vaguely at the toss and noticed it wasn't straightforward. He put his opinionated loud foot in his mouth again and has landed in hot water. I have zero sympathy for him by the way. This goes a lot deeper however. Swans have doubled down today because they are still seething over the Goodes saga and the role he played in it. In addition, because of his large media profile in Melbourne, the club holds him largely responsible for removal of COLA and the two year trade ban. Pridham is pressuring McLachlan big time to do something about it despite McGuire's seemingly more genuine apology today. We shouldn't hold our breath because he is the original protected species here in Melbourne. People in other states scratch their head rightly and wonder how he survives. It's a peculiarly Melbourne thing. He's probably already been on the phone to Gil a la Clarkson as part of the boys buddy club that runs the game. No arms length approach and a heap of conflicts of interest. Let's hope karma wins out soon.

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            • Velour&Ruffles
              Regular in the Side
              • Jun 2006
              • 896

              #51
              Originally posted by Blood Fever
              You could argue McGuire's comments have been taken too far, especially if this was an isolated incident. He claims he only looked vaguely at the toss and noticed it wasn't straightforward. He put his opinionated loud foot in his mouth again and has landed in hot water. I have zero sympathy for him by the way. This goes a lot deeper however. Swans have doubled down today because they are still seething over the Goodes saga and the role he played in it. In addition, because of his large media profile in Melbourne, the club holds him largely responsible for removal of COLA and the two year trade ban. Pridham is pressuring McLachlan big time to do something about it despite McGuire's seemingly more genuine apology today. We shouldn't hold our breath because he is the original protected species here in Melbourne. People in other states scratch their head rightly and wonder how he survives. It's a peculiarly Melbourne thing. He's probably already been on the phone to Gil a la Clarkson as part of the boys buddy club that runs the game. No arms length approach and a heap of conflicts of interest. Let's hope karma wins out soon.
              Eddie (or, more precisely, Eddie's personality) is the cause of Eddie's problems, so karma is a good chance of winning in the long run (and it's certainly had a very good 24 hours).

              Anyone who watched the Footy Show back in the day, or has listened to his blatherings on MMM, will know that Eddie's natural instinct is to try to belittle and humiliate others with what is often savagely personal comments - sometimes for professional reasons (eg Caro Wilson) and sometimes just for attention. He's been at it for several decades now. He often then tries to cover it up with a comment along the lines of "{Name} is a ripping bloke and we're just having a laugh, it's all in fun" so that if the victim reacts they look precious and humourless, but the damage is done.

              This coin toss thing is just another example of a very well worn and familiar pattern. His natural instinct to belittle someone in front of a large audience kicked in and off he went. Frankly, what does it matter if the coin toss isn't very good? Why is it even comment-worthy? It still lands one side or the other up and gets the job done. If he were a nicer bloke he would have simply said nothing and devoted airtime to talking about something more productive and relevant to the game. But he couldn't resist slagging off someone when he was in the position of power and they had no comeback. I believe him when he suggests that he didn't register her physical disability. But in a way that's not relevant. It would be pointless and mean-spirited behaviour whoever was tossing the coin - it serves no purpose other than to embarrass some person on national TV during what is supposed to be their 15 seconds of fame. What a big man.

              The fact that Cynthia Banham has the physical challenges she does has simply made the behaviour impossible to ignore on this occasion. But the problem is fairly and squarely Eddie's desire to make others a laughing stock. There is a wonderful poetic justice in the fact that it has rebounded back on him this time, with interest. If he wasn't mean spirited in the first place this wouldn't have happened to him - the biter bit. I'd suggest that it might also be a valuable learning experience but his history suggests that this leopard is incapable of changing its spots. Until he develops a greater sense of empathy and stops viewing people as props in the Eddie Show this will keep happening .... and the karma bus will reappear.
              My opinion is objective truth in its purest form

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              • Blood Fever
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 4040

                #52
                Originally posted by Velour&Ruffles
                Eddie (or, more precisely, Eddie's personality) is the cause of Eddie's problems, so karma is a good chance of winning in the long run (and it's certainly had a very good 24 hours).

                Anyone who watched the Footy Show back in the day, or has listened to his blatherings on MMM, will know that Eddie's natural instinct is to try to belittle and humiliate others with what is often savagely personal comments - sometimes for professional reasons (eg Caro Wilson) and sometimes just for attention. He's been at it for several decades now. He often then tries to cover it up with a comment along the lines of "{Name} is a ripping bloke and we're just having a laugh, it's all in fun" so that if the victim reacts they look precious and humourless, but the damage is done.

                This coin toss thing is just another example of a very well worn and familiar pattern. His natural instinct to belittle someone in front of a large audience kicked in and off he went. Frankly, what does it matter if the coin toss isn't very good? Why is it even comment-worthy? It still lands one side or the other up and gets the job done. If he were a nicer bloke he would have simply said nothing and devoted airtime to talking about something more productive and relevant to the game. But he couldn't resist slagging off someone when he was in the position of power and they had no comeback. I believe him when he suggests that he didn't register her physical disability. But in a way that's not relevant. It would be pointless and mean-spirited behaviour whoever was tossing the coin - it serves no purpose other than to embarrass some person on national TV during what is supposed to be their 15 seconds of fame. What a big man.

                The fact that Cynthia Banham has the physical challenges she does has simply made the behaviour impossible to ignore on this occasion. But the problem is fairly and squarely Eddie's desire to make others a laughing stock. There is a wonderful poetic justice in the fact that it has rebounded back on him this time, with interest. If he wasn't mean spirited in the first place this wouldn't have happened to him - the biter bit. I'd suggest that it might also be a valuable learning experience but his history suggests that this leopard is incapable of changing its spots. Until he develops a greater sense of empathy and stops viewing people as props in the Eddie Show this will keep happening .... and the karma bus will reappear.
                Spot on post. Hope karma bus eventually runs him over, metaphorically speaking.

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                • S.S. Bleeder
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 2165

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Blood Fever
                  Spot on post. Hope karma bus eventually runs him over, metaphorically speaking.
                  Nothing will happen to McGuire. He's the Jussie Smollett of the AFL. They'll dish out a fake penalty to give the perception that something was done and that's where is will end.

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                  • barry
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 8499

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Blood Fever
                    You could argue McGuire's comments have been taken too far, especially if this was an isolated incident. He claims he only looked vaguely at the toss and noticed it wasn't straightforward. He put his opinionated loud foot in his mouth again and has landed in hot water. I have zero sympathy for him by the way. This goes a lot deeper however. Swans have doubled down today because they are still seething over the Goodes saga and the role he played in it. In addition, because of his large media profile in Melbourne, the club holds him largely responsible for removal of COLA and the two year trade ban. Pridham is pressuring McLachlan big time to do something about it despite McGuire's seemingly more genuine apology today. We shouldn't hold our breath because he is the original protected species here in Melbourne. People in other states scratch their head rightly and wonder how he survives. It's a peculiarly Melbourne thing. He's probably already been on the phone to Gil a la Clarkson as part of the boys buddy club that runs the game. No arms length approach and a heap of conflicts of interest. Let's hope karma wins out soon.
                    I don't disagree with any of that but the Goodes thing is 1000x worse than this one and we only have ourselves to blame for not pursuing that further.

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                    • Matty10
                      Senior Player
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1331

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Sandridge
                      In a way, you're right. The disability is irrelevant. The point is that - for no reason other than him wanting to be the smart, funny guy - he chose to belittle an innocent person on national television. That makes him a bully.
                      Originally posted by Velour&Ruffles
                      Anyone who watched the Footy Show back in the day, or has listened to his blatherings on MMM, will know that Eddie's natural instinct is to try to belittle and humiliate others with what is often savagely personal comments - sometimes for professional reasons (eg Caro Wilson) and sometimes just for attention. He's been at it for several decades now. He often then tries to cover it up with a comment along the lines of "{Name} is a ripping bloke and we're just having a laugh, it's all in fun" so that if the victim reacts they look precious and humourless, but the damage is done.

                      This coin toss thing is just another example of a very well worn and familiar pattern. His natural instinct to belittle someone in front of a large audience kicked in and off he went. Frankly, what does it matter if the coin toss isn't very good? Why is it even comment-worthy? It still lands one side or the other up and gets the job done. If he were a nicer bloke he would have simply said nothing and devoted airtime to talking about something more productive and relevant to the game. But he couldn't resist slagging off someone when he was in the position of power and they had no comeback. I believe him when he suggests that he didn't register her physical disability. But in a way that's not relevant. It would be pointless and mean-spirited behaviour whoever was tossing the coin - it serves no purpose other than to embarrass some person on national TV during what is supposed to be their 15 seconds of fame. What a big man.
                      Absolutely spot on comments.

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                      • Sandridge
                        Outer wing, Lake Oval
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 2049

                        #56
                        Go get'im Brandon!

                        'Nice line to throw around, Eddie': McGuire is roasted by an ex-footy star for offering a 'classic non-apology' after criticising a double amputee plane crash victim over AFL coin toss

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                        • KellysHeroes
                          Pushing for Selection
                          • Aug 2016
                          • 81

                          #57
                          Enough said. mug guire done.jpg

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                          • stevoswan
                            Veterans List
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 8543

                            #58
                            Great article from Richard Hinds on the demise of quality sports commentary and the rise of the 'jockocracy', or 'blokey commentary' in the box.

                            Eddie McGuire's criticism of coin-tosser reveals rapid degeneration of sports commentary and analysis - Sport - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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                            • Kafka's Ghost
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 899

                              #59
                              Originally posted by stevoswan
                              Great article from Richard Hinds on the demise of quality sports commentary and the rise of the 'jockocracy', or 'blokey commentary' in the box.

                              Eddie McGuire's criticism of coin-tosser reveals rapid degeneration of sports commentary and analysis - Sport - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
                              This is largely why when I watch games on TV/Internet the sound is all but muted, and during Swans’ games it is always muted.

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                              • 0918330512
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 1654

                                #60
                                “Brandon Jack, a former Sydney Swans star, slammed McGuire in an opinion piece on 10daily.com, saying that the TV host had tried to shift blame onto those who were offended by his comments, rather than accept ownership for his mistake.”

                                I think they might use the title of “star” a little liberally at times

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