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  • KTigers
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2012
    • 2499

    #61
    Originally posted by stevoswan
    Great article from Richard Hinds on the demise of quality sports commentary and the rise of the 'jockocracy', or 'blokey commentary' in the box.

    Eddie McGuire's criticism of coin-tosser reveals rapid degeneration of sports commentary and analysis - Sport - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
    Apparently McGuire is "now back on air" according to The Age. We can't imagine how devastating it must have been for him
    to not hear his own voice saying stupid & offensive stuff for an entire day. He is the real victim here.

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    • Steve
      Regular in the Side
      • Jan 2003
      • 676

      #62
      Originally posted by KTigers
      Apparently McGuire is "now back on air" according to The Age. We can't imagine how devastating it must have been for him
      to not hear his own voice saying stupid & offensive stuff for an entire day. He is the real victim here.
      Even the media were fooled in the way they reported it, buying into the 'taken himself off the air' line as though it was a punishment or done out acknowledgement of what he'd one, out of respect etc. Instead of the self-preservation and avoidance that it was.

      In fairness it was the only thing to do - if he went on the next day and acted as though nothing happened he'd be criticised, but if he continued to address it by adding to his apology or tried to explain further it would have inevitably gone further downhill given it is Eddie.

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      • KTigers
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2012
        • 2499

        #63
        Originally posted by Steve
        Even the media were fooled in the way they reported it, buying into the 'taken himself off the air' line as though it was a punishment or done out acknowledgement of what he'd one, out of respect etc. Instead of the self-preservation and avoidance that it was.

        In fairness it was the only thing to do - if he went on the next day and acted as though nothing happened he'd be criticised, but if he continued to address it by adding to his apology or tried to explain further it would have inevitably gone further downhill given it is Eddie.
        Basically he's like a lot of these spuds in the media, he's not smart enough to know he's not that smart, and is never more than
        a broadcast away from saying something stupid again. In his own little world, he's considered successful and because he's made
        a few dollars he falls into the common trap of equating that with meaning something more than being a bit more driven
        than the next guy to try make a few bucks.

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        • stevoswan
          Veterans List
          • Sep 2014
          • 8543

          #64
          Just saw Seven News report on the 'Eddie' latest.....he's again apologised on camera and has apparently written Cynthia Banham a letter of apology. All this after being rightfully publicly pillored.....it would be just nice if he had a brain and didn't belittle or bully anyone in the first place.

          Should we start a book on when he next puts his foot in his mouth and shows us all he has yet again not learnt a thing.....?

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          • Sandrevan
            Warming the Bench
            • May 2016
            • 355

            #65
            Originally posted by stevoswan
            Just saw Seven News report on the 'Eddie' latest.....he's again apologised on camera and has apparently written Cynthia Banham a letter of apology. All this after being rightfully publicly pillored.....it would be just nice if he had a brain and didn't belittle or bully anyone in the first place.

            Should we start a book on when he next puts his foot in his mouth and shows us all he has yet again not learnt a thing.....?
            There's a pretty good chance that he will do it again. Like everybody else I saw the toss of the coin, saw the person was disabled and the coin toss was a bit wonky - but who cares. It's just a coin toss. It would never occur to me to make a comment about it. I was watching Ch 7 and there were no comments about it. So why Maguire? He is not a funny guy but thinks he is a funny guy. He trying to ingratiate himself with the boys club by making funny comments - which aren't funny. He is a tool and a cowboy - he needs to engage his brain before he opens his mouth. The AFL puts a lot of publicity into being inclusive but Maguires shoot from the hip comments show there is really a long way to go.

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            • crackedactor
              Regular in the Side
              • May 2012
              • 919

              #66
              Originally posted by Sandrevan
              There's a pretty good chance that he will do it again. Like everybody else I saw the toss of the coin, saw the person was disabled and the coin toss was a bit wonky - but who cares. It's just a coin toss. It would never occur to me to make a comment about it. I was watching Ch 7 and there were no comments about it. So why Maguire? He is not a funny guy but thinks he is a funny guy. He trying to ingratiate himself with the boys club by making funny comments - which aren't funny. He is a tool and a cowboy - he needs to engage his brain before he opens his mouth. The AFL puts a lot of publicity into being inclusive but Maguires shoot from the hip comments show there is really a long way to go.
              Guess what the AFL have decided to take no action against Macguire. The hypocrisy of the AFL is breathtaking. He will be commentating again this Friday. In fact would not be surprised if they decided to fine for Swans for complaining.


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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8543

                #67
                Originally posted by crackedactor
                Guess what the AFL have decided to take no action against Macguire. The hypocrisy of the AFL is breathtaking. He will be commentating again this Friday. In fact would not be surprised if they decided to fine for Swans for complaining.
                Wonder if Pridham will have something to say about the kid glove treatment.....

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                • barry
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8499

                  #68
                  The AFL is a Victorian competition, run by Victorians for the benefit of victorians.

                  As NSW'ains, we are mugs for following it.

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                  • Blood Fever
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4040

                    #69
                    Originally posted by barry
                    The AFL is a Victorian competition, run by Victorians for the benefit of victorians.

                    As NSW'ains, we are mugs for following it.
                    I'm a Vic Swans fan. Feel like just as big a mug for the same reasons. Worse really because I'm right in the middle of it.

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                    • KTigers
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 2499

                      #70
                      Originally posted by barry
                      The AFL is a Victorian competition, run by Victorians for the benefit of victorians.

                      As NSW'ains, we are mugs for following it.
                      I'm afraid you are probably right, Barry. It's just rugby league..... we can't be expected to follow that.
                      That is just a bridge too far.

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                      • KSAS
                        Senior Player
                        • Mar 2018
                        • 1765

                        #71
                        Originally posted by stevoswan
                        Wonder if Pridham will have something to say about the kid glove treatment.....
                        On one of the Monday night footy shows someone commented (John Ralph - AFL Tonight I think?) that some in the AFL believe the Swans are bit of whingers when it comes to Eddie McGuire and predicted Eddie won't get punished by the AFL with them seeing it as a TV broadcasting issue.

                        On the "Back Page" last night I thought Adam Spencer got it right when he said everyone makes mistakes on TV such as what Eddie did (believing his version of events), but added the problem with Eddie was his first attempt at apologising on the night came across as shallow and insincere. Had he apologised like he did yesterday morning on his MMM radio show, then he would've been fine.

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16733

                          #72
                          Originally posted by KSAS

                          On the "Back Page" last night I thought Adam Spencer got it right when he said everyone makes mistakes on TV such as what Eddie did (believing his version of events), but added the problem with Eddie was his first attempt at apologising on the night came across as shallow and insincere. Had he apologised like he did yesterday morning on his MMM radio show, then he would've been fine.
                          Which was the same problem with his Goodes gaffe. His first apology was a non-apology. He finally managed something close to an unqualified apology late in the evening, but only after we'd had to put up with him on every footy news show justifying why the comment wasn't really his fault. Had he just put out a proper apology in a written statement straightaway, and then withdrawn from his broadcasting duties for a period of time (given that he attributed his blunder to being tired and overworked), it would have been much easier to forgive him.

                          You'd think he'd have had enough practice apologising by now to get it right first time.

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                          • KSAS
                            Senior Player
                            • Mar 2018
                            • 1765

                            #73
                            Originally posted by liz
                            Which was the same problem with his Goodes gaffe. His first apology was a non-apology. He finally managed something close to an unqualified apology late in the evening, but only after we'd had to put up with him on every footy news show justifying why the comment wasn't really his fault. Had he just put out a proper apology in a written statement straightaway, and then withdrawn from his broadcasting duties for a period of time (given that he attributed his blunder to being tired and overworked), it would have been much easier to forgive him.

                            You'd think he'd have had enough practice apologising by now to get it right first time.

                            Yep, his first reaction when he realises he's made a gaffe is one of self preservation rather than honest empathy towards the unintended victim, which comes way too late after the damage has been done.

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              #74
                              For Sydney-siders to understand Eddie's influence, they need to imagine Alan Jones and add Alan Jones running the NRL media.

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                              • Blood Fever
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4040

                                #75
                                Originally posted by barry
                                For Sydney-siders to understand Eddie's influence, they need to imagine Alan Jones and add Alan Jones running the NRL media.
                                Comment sad but true

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