#AFL Round 3 Weekly Discussion Thread

[dejavoodoo44]

Can anyone tell me the last time all 4 NSW & Qld teams won on the same weekend? Surely it has to be a long time ago.

The Suns and Brisbane are both playing enjoyable footy to watch too, particularly Brisbane. Extra points to to Stewart Dew for carrying a paunch that so many of us can relate to with such insouciance.

Round 18 in 2016. Which is slightly quirky, as the Lions only won three games that season and the Suns six. So it was a bit fortunate that there was a case of the wins coinciding. We nearly let the stat down, by only just beating Carlton by six points.
I didn't go back any further to see if there were any more incidences. I doubt if there were many.

[liz]

It's getting ridiculous....this from today.

Was this contact below the knee the right call? - AFL.com.au

The answer to the question is.....no.

That was a very poor free kick to pay. Possibly the worst I’ve seen. But as I’ve already commented, just because the umpires pay a daft free doesn’t make the rule wrong. If it did, wed need to do away with pretty much every rule in the book.

[wolftone57]

That was a very poor free kick to pay. Possibly the worst I’ve seen. But as I’ve already commented, just because the umpires pay a daft free doesn’t make the rule wrong. If it did, wed need to do away with pretty much every rule in the book.

The thought behind the rule is not wrong. The wording is. Needs to be more specific.

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[Meg]

I look at these recent below-the-knees free kicks and think of the 2016 GF.

And weep.

[stevoswan]

The thought behind the rule is not wrong. The wording is. Needs to be more specific.

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I look at these recent below-the-knees free kicks and think of the 2016 GF.

And weep.

+1

[barry]

That collingwood one is probably wrong, but as someone who has had a few bad knee injuries in my time, I like the "below the knees rule" and the behaviour change it has brought to the AFL. Other tackle intensive codes have also brought in similar rules because the knee's and ankles are so vunerable in the suped-up atmosphere of professional sport speed and weight. The NFL have something similar I think. The chop-block rule?

[wolftone57]

That collingwood one is probably wrong, but as someone who has had a few bad knee injuries in my time, I like the "below the knees rule" and the behaviour change it has brought to the AFL. Other tackle intensive codes have also brought in similar rules because the knee's and ankles are so vunerable in the suped-up atmosphere of professional sport speed and weight. The NFL have something similar I think. The chop-block rule?

Yes Barry but not at the expense of good footy. If a player can no longer hunt the footy at ground level the rule becomes a joke. We are all taught to hunt the ball that way. The Collingwood example and the three in our game V Bullies were just plain wrong. There was no danger of a player being injured in any of those contests and the player on the ground was simply first to the ball.

If the wording of the rule were to change the interpretation would change. These guys who umpire our games are not lawyers, judges or trained in lateral thinking unless they have those degrees. But a lawyers would have a field day with interpretations and semantics the way the laws are worded. They are so open you could drive a Mac truck through them

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[dimelb]

... If the wording of the rule were to change the interpretation would change. These guys who umpire our games are not lawyers, judges or trained in lateral thinking unless they have those degrees. But a lawyers would have a field day with interpretations and semantics the way the laws are worded. They are so open you could drive a Mac truck through them

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I wouldn't have any truck with Mac!

[Hotpotato]

Free kicks NSW/qld Vs victoria
GWS 18. Richmond 24.
Sun's 12. Dogs 27.
Swans 16, Carl 20

NSW/qld: 46. Vic: 71.

No NSW or Qld based umpires.
This is not a one of. This is most rounds.
Draw your own conclusions

Crikey , that’s way crooked.

[Blood Fever]

Crikey , that’s way crooked.

If Barry is right about no Qld or NSW umps, and I have no reason to doubt it, unconscious bias in play plus the fact that all other umps would have barracked for a team as a kid. Victorian based ones probably fanatically such is the culture. Please discuss.

[dejavoodoo44]

If Barry is right about no Qld or NSW umps, and I have no reason to doubt it, unconscious bias in play plus the fact that all other umps would have barracked for a team as a kid. Victorian based ones probably fanatically such is the culture. Please discuss.

Yes, I could be wrong, but I can't recall any VFL/AFL umpires ever being based in Sydney, or even NSW. Which tends to suggest that area of development has not been a priority. I mean, if you asked people back in 1982, when the Swans first relocated, what would happen first; a NSW umpire joining the ranks, or a women's team from Western Sydney playing in a national women's comp, I think most people would have went for the umpire.

[Sandridge]

Free kicks NSW/qld Vs victoria
GWS 18. Richmond 24.
Sun's 12. Dogs 27.
Swans 16, Carl 20

NSW/qld: 46. Vic: 71.

No NSW or Qld based umpires.
This is not a one of. This is most rounds.
Draw your own conclusions

Would love to see the Suns follow up that enormously lopsided count - they can't be accused of being poor losers!
Unfortunately, the fact that they won is probably why they won't do anything.

Anyway, well done Stewie Dew and the Suns for denying the Fairypuppies!!

[wolftone57]

Yes, I could be wrong, but I can't recall any VFL/AFL umpires ever being based in Sydney, or even NSW. Which tends to suggest that area of development has not been a priority. I mean, if you asked people back in 1982, when the Swans first relocated, what would happen first; a NSW umpire joining the ranks, or a women's team from Western Sydney playing in a national women's comp, I think most people would have went for the umpire.

Ray Chamberlain is from ACT. Andrew Stephens, Alex Wetton, James Strybos (R) , Andrew Adair (R) are Banana Benders. Jacob Mollison is from the Albury League. This does not mean he is, from NSW. He could be from Wodonga but he's at least close. Matthew Baigenr is a Rookie Umpire who started in East Sydney Junior AFL.

So there are some but not many

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[Bloods05]

Ray Chamberlain is from ACT. Andrew Stephens, Alex Wetton, James Strybos (R) , Andrew Adair (R) are Banana Benders. Jacob Mollison is from the Albury League. This does not mean he is, from NSW. He could be from Wodonga but he's at least close. Matthew Baigenr is a Rookie Umpire who started in East Sydney Junior AFL.

So there are some but not many

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Facts, schmacts.

[Hotpotato]

Now, no Dusty when we meet Tigers at Marvel.
Have they unravelled ?