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  • RogueSwan
    McVeigh for Brownlow
    • Apr 2003
    • 4602

    #31
    In: hitting a target
    Out: overusing the ball

    I think the team balance is fine, changing the 20th, 21st and 22nd in the team won't make any significant difference.
    From what I have seen this year it is our skills letting us down, which may be a youth/inexperience thing. But we can have great chains up the field let down by an errant handball, a kick which is just too short or picks out the opposition. If you halved our errors for the year we would, i reckon, have another two wins on the board.
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    • swansrob
      Senior Player
      • May 2009
      • 1265

      #32
      For mine, it's
      OUT: Ronke, McCartin
      IN: Rose, COR

      Rose has been tearing up the NEAFL and even he can hit at least the same numbers as Ronke at senior level at the moment. We gave him a one year contract, we need to at least give the chance to roll the dice and play for his career
      COR should never have been dropped. McCartin shouldn't be even named in defence - send him back and get him to work alongside Blakey in the twos. They both need to develop a bit and playing with one another will help them gel before we put the world on their shoulders

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      • ernie koala
        Senior Player
        • May 2007
        • 3251

        #33
        Originally posted by swansrob
        For mine, it's
        OUT: Ronke, McCartin
        IN: Rose, COR

        Rose has been tearing up the NEAFL and even he can hit at least the same numbers as Ronke at senior level at the moment. We gave him a one year contract, we need to at least give the chance to roll the dice and play for his career
        COR should never have been dropped. McCartin shouldn't be even named in defence - send him back and get him to work alongside Blakey in the twos. They both need to develop a bit and playing with one another will help them gel before we put the world on their shoulders
        Agree with most of this......Though I can't find a reason to keep Jack in the side.

        They may be playing McCartin in defence as part of his education as a forward, which seems to be standard practice for many young forwards.

        But I agree, playing him alongside Blakey would be a fabulous opportunity for them to develop some synergy.
        Last edited by ernie koala; 23 April 2019, 04:12 PM.
        Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          #34
          We simply do not play the SCG well at the moment, and I think it is because we go in too tall.
          At night its a slippery mess, so we should be looking to reduce talls. McCartin out, and probably Rose in.
          Also the smaller ground should mean we wont be exposed for speed as much.

          Normally I'd be concerned with our ruck, but I have a feeling Mumford may be rested, meaning we will go up against there second ruck (whose name escapes me). This will at least give Sinclair a chance. GWS dont have any tall marking forwards, and players like Cameron rely on the leads and manoeuvrability, so suit Rampe and Allir. No need to bring Reid back.

          Tough game though, hard to see where next win is coming from.

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          • dimelb
            pr. dim-melb; m not f
            • Jun 2003
            • 6889

            #35
            Originally posted by RogueSwan
            In: hitting a target
            Out: overusing the ball

            I think the team balance is fine, changing the 20th, 21st and 22nd in the team won't make any significant difference.
            From what I have seen this year it is our skills letting us down, which may be a youth/inexperience thing. But we can have great chains up the field let down by an errant handball, a kick which is just too short or picks out the opposition. If you halved our errors for the year we would, i reckon, have another two wins on the board.
            Couldn't agree more.
            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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            • mcs
              Travelling Swannie!!
              • Jul 2007
              • 8166

              #36
              Originally posted by 707
              So here's a change for this week, should not have missed a senior game this year! Put him in and let him develop, has line breaking ability and reads the play well.

              Sydney development coach Jeremy Laidler heaped praise on O’Riordan, the Irish Swan who last year made a long-awaited AFL debut to stun the footy world.

              “Colin played in defence for three quarters of the game and I thought he was really strong down there. He beat his opponent and also supported his teammates – both in the air and on the ground,” Laidler told Swans Media.

              “We then made a change at three-quarter time to put him in the midfield, and he was really hard and clean in there and made a big difference for us in winning the game.
              Like Dawson, I feel COR deserves an extended run in seniors to be given a chance to show whether he is up to it or not. As Dawson showed on Saturday night, I feel COR would benefit from a similar chance being provided.
              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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              • Blood Fever
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 4048

                #37
                Originally posted by MattW
                I don't think he's having much impact with or without the ball at the moment. Small sample size, but compared to the last year he's down on disposals, marks, inside 50s, and clearances (the last three, significantly).

                - - - Updated - - -



                Sorry, I don't think he's been good. Still a chance to develop, but on a plateau at best right now.
                Talking about his career with Swans, not just some off the games this year.

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                • Sandrevan
                  Warming the Bench
                  • May 2016
                  • 355

                  #38
                  Sam Reid can't kick a goal to save himself so he can go back to CHB and mark up Jeremy Cameron. Aliir to Himmelberg and Rampe free to play the exit player.

                  KJ and Ronke need to be dropped with Rose to come in

                  Mills to the mids and COR coming in to the defence.

                  Franklin and McCartin as the key forwards with Buddy playing up the ground a bit.

                  out: KJ, Ronke
                  in: COR, Rose

                  Agree with others that JPK and Parker should not be in the centre at the same time. They can alternate between centre and forward.

                  I can't find a place for Melican at this point.

                  Rampe Reid Cunningham
                  COR Aliir Lloyd

                  Florent Kennedy Jones
                  Sinclair Heeney Parker

                  Papley Franklin Rose
                  Hewett McCartin Rowbottom

                  Mills, Thurlow, Clarke,

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                  • longmile
                    Crumber
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 3365

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Sandrevan
                    Sam Reid can't kick a goal to save himself so he can go back to CHB and mark up Jeremy Cameron. Aliir to Himmelberg and Rampe free to play the exit player.

                    KJ and Ronke need to be dropped with Rose to come in

                    Mills to the mids and COR coming in to the defence.

                    Franklin and McCartin as the key forwards with Buddy playing up the ground a bit.

                    out: KJ, Ronke
                    in: COR, Rose

                    Agree with others that JPK and Parker should not be in the centre at the same time. They can alternate between centre and forward.
                    Completely agree with this. Only doubt I have is that Reid usually plays the spare man and doesnt play as a proper 1v1 defender

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                    • Mark26
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 1535

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Sandrevan
                      Sam Reid can't kick a goal to save himself so he can go back to CHB and mark up Jeremy Cameron. Aliir to Himmelberg and Rampe free to play the exit player.

                      KJ and Ronke need to be dropped with Rose to come in

                      Mills to the mids and COR coming in to the defence.

                      Franklin and McCartin as the key forwards with Buddy playing up the ground a bit.

                      out: KJ, Ronke
                      in: COR, Rose

                      Agree with others that JPK and Parker should not be in the centre at the same time. They can alternate between centre and forward.

                      I can't find a place for Melican at this point.

                      Rampe Reid Cunningham
                      COR Aliir Lloyd

                      Florent Kennedy Jones
                      Sinclair Heeney Parker

                      Papley Franklin Rose
                      Hewett McCartin Rowbottom

                      Mills, Thurlow, Clarke,
                      Like this a lot. Doubt it will happen though. Mills and Reid will stay where they are. Jack and Ronke will no doubt retain their positions. COR and Rose will stay put too.

                      Here's hoping for something to shift either with the playing group and the coaching / selections. Come on Bloods

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                      • MattW
                        Veterans List
                        • May 2011
                        • 4218

                        #41
                        Longmire presser notes:
                        - asked about Reid: deflected questions he'd move to defence; noted he has been dropping easy marks
                        - asked about Melican: suggested he had been good in the reserves the last two weeks; indicated he didn't play last week due to match-ups, but could this week with more talls in the opposition's forward line
                        - asked about injured players: indicated that McVeigh, Grundy and Smith are still 'a number of weeks away' and that they aren't training; Hayward trained really well today, he loves Hayward's enthusiasm, Hayward is trying to get a helmet fitted; Menzel is looking 'quite good' at training, but won't play this week as he builds fitness
                        - asked about Blakey: demoted to reserves to find some confidence and ball; indicated he was quite good in the reserves (but did not suggest he may be back this week)
                        - noted, without prompting, that Dawson and Florent have been good.

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                        • ugg
                          Can you feel it?
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15970

                          #42
                          Melican, Blakey
                          For
                          Jack, Ronke

                          Makes for a very tall team
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                          • ugg
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15970

                            #43
                            Emg Rose Cameron O’Riordan Ronke

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                            • MattW
                              Veterans List
                              • May 2011
                              • 4218

                              #44
                              Originally posted by ugg
                              Melican, Blakey
                              For
                              Jack, Ronke

                              Makes for a very tall team
                              But neither are slow. And it's needed back, as Rampe can't play on Greene and Cameron. I would prefer him on Greene - let's not muck around with a smaller defender who will get beaten. Aliir on Himmelberg, Melican on Cameron. Mills on de Boer.

                              We're going to have to win the midfield. Ha.

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                              • Ludwig
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                #45
                                Originally posted by ugg
                                Melican, Blakey
                                For
                                Jack, Ronke

                                Makes for a very tall team
                                But the Giants are even taller.

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