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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    #31
    Originally posted by liz
    On the evidence of Saturday, I'd much prefer someone like Fox to get a chance in Clarke's role (whatever that is, exactly).
    There's a video interview with Fox on the Swans' website today. He mentioned that the coaches had a talk with him about getting back to basics and it's improved his game, at least it did on Saturday. He's played some good football and he has a well rounded game, in that his skills are quite good, he runs well and does the physical stuff too, so his best footy is AFL quality. For some reason his game fell away the back half of last year. I hope Saturday was his resurrection. He's someone who can come right into the side if needed.

    I think we have the right personnel to improve. We need to get the defense settled so they get used to working together. Every good team has a well oiled back line to move the ball quickly out of defense. Without Reg, Macca and Smith, we're playing like a school yard pick-up team. Getting COR and Stoddart into the side and deciding on the 3rd key defender (Melican, Reid or McCartin) should be done asap. Then just play them together for a string of games and hopefully we'll see some improvement.

    Maybe by June, Ling will have build his game up enough to make an AFL debut. I like what I see so far. He's another player with pace and precision kicking that should make a big difference.

    COR, Stoddart and Ling make for a significant boost in running and kicking power compared to the side we put out last week.

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    • ugg
      Can you feel it?
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 15971

      #32
      Buddy ruled out but Hayward may return.
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      • Ralph Dawg
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2018
        • 1729

        #33
        Originally posted by ugg
        Buddy ruled out but Hayward may return.
        Surely we must play Cameron this week. Sinclair can play FF, give us a genuine target. Stef Martin is an undersized ruck, Cameron should have a good shot at the stoppages. Plus he has shown he can clunk a mark and is a good kick. The only doubt is whether he had the tank to run with Stef but with Sinclair and Reid to give him a break, I think he will be fine and this is the ideal week to bring him in.

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        • longmile
          Crumber
          • Apr 2011
          • 3367

          #34
          Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
          Surely we must play Cameron this week. Sinclair can play FF, give us a genuine target. Stef Martin is an undersized ruck, Cameron should have a good shot at the stoppages. Plus he has shown he can clunk a mark and is a good kick. The only doubt is whether he had the tank to run with Stef but with Sinclair and Reid to give him a break, I think he will be fine and this is the ideal week to bring him in.
          Agreed. Also we have to play COR. I'd bring in Rose for Ronke if Hayward doesn't get up.

          Any news on Menzel? I saw he didnt return and play ressies last week.

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          • chalbilto
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2007
            • 1139

            #35
            Originally posted by longmile
            Agreed. Also we have to play COR. I'd bring in Rose for Ronke if Hayward doesn't get up.

            Any news on Menzel? I saw he didnt return and play ressies last week.
            Menzel is out until maybe next week in the reserve as per Longmire's press conference yesterday.
            Listening to Longmire he gave me the impression that he sounded really positive and relieved as if the weight of expectation has been lifted viz; making the finals, rebuilding and maintaining the status. He sounded really excited about having a proper training oval next to the SCG, taking into consideration the construction works in the area viz; Allianz Stadium rebuild and the light rail works.
            As a supporter I can accept that the club will not achieve finals this year and that the next wave of young footballers are to come through. I am optimistic that this will happen and I would like to see Mills and Florent playing in the midfield, Cor and Stoddart brought in. Stick with McCartin up forward, persist with Melican, Thurlow and Allir down back, play Dawson half back, Lloyd on a wing. Parker and Kennedy a mix of forward/midfield.
            Back to the reserves for Clarke and Ronke to get confidence and form.

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            • MattW
              Veterans List
              • May 2011
              • 4223

              #36
              Originally posted by Ludwig
              There's a video interview with Fox on the Swans' website today. He mentioned that the coaches had a talk with him about getting back to basics and it's improved his game, at least it did on Saturday. He's played some good football and he has a well rounded game, in that his skills are quite good, he runs well and does the physical stuff too, so his best footy is AFL quality. For some reason his game fell away the back half of last year. I hope Saturday was his resurrection. He's someone who can come right into the side if needed.

              I think we have the right personnel to improve. We need to get the defense settled so they get used to working together. Every good team has a well oiled back line to move the ball quickly out of defense. Without Reg, Macca and Smith, we're playing like a school yard pick-up team. Getting COR and Stoddart into the side and deciding on the 3rd key defender (Melican, Reid or McCartin) should be done asap. Then just play them together for a string of games and hopefully we'll see some improvement.

              Maybe by June, Ling will have build his game up enough to make an AFL debut. I like what I see so far. He's another player with pace and precision kicking that should make a big difference.

              COR, Stoddart and Ling make for a significant boost in running and kicking power compared to the side we put out last week.
              Good one, agree with all of this.

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              • Markwebbos
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2016
                • 7186

                #37
                Originally posted by chalbilto
                Menzel is out until maybe next week in the reserve as per Longmire's press conference yesterday.
                Listening to Longmire he gave me the impression that he sounded really positive and relieved as if the weight of expectation has been lifted viz; making the finals, rebuilding and maintaining the status. He sounded really excited about having a proper training oval next to the SCG, taking into consideration the construction works in the area viz; Allianz Stadium rebuild and the light rail works.
                As a supporter I can accept that the club will not achieve finals this year and that the next wave of young footballers are to come through. I am optimistic that this will happen and I would like to see Mills and Florent playing in the midfield, Cor and Stoddart brought in. Stick with McCartin up forward, persist with Melican, Thurlow and Allir down back, play Dawson half back, Lloyd on a wing. Parker and Kennedy a mix of forward/midfield.
                Back to the reserves for Clarke and Ronke to get confidence and form.
                Lets see what this week brings at selection and at the Gabbatoir?
                I can handle a down year if it will be used to set us up for the future.

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  #38
                  According to the AFL, Kizza is "in the mix" to return this week?

                  In the mix: Who's pushing for selection for round seven? - AFL.com.au

                  What do others feel about that?

                  I really don't think Jack should come back. I think the club should continue with the (admittedly enforced - well pointed out Liz) youth policy. The only argument I can think of would be for Jack to lead the forward line in the absence of Buddy. But why can't Sam Reid do that?

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                  • AnnieH
                    RWOs Black Sheep
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 11332

                    #39
                    I'd say change them all, but...
                    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                    • Mark26
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 1535

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Markwebbos
                      According to the AFL, Kizza is "in the mix" to return this week?

                      In the mix: Who's pushing for selection for round seven? - AFL.com.au

                      What do others feel about that?

                      I really don't think Jack should come back. I think the club should continue with the (admittedly enforced - well pointed out Liz) youth policy. The only argument I can think of would be for Jack to lead the forward line in the absence of Buddy. But why can't Sam Reid do that?
                      I'd much rather Jack can stay in the seconds and help the next gen with some onfield leadership and coaching. It's time to give another player a decent run in our squad. COR, Fox and Rose should all come in ahead of Jack as they have upside (maybe).

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                      • Ralph Dawg
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 1729

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Mark26
                        I'd much rather Jack can stay in the seconds and help the next gen with some onfield leadership and coaching. It's time to give another player a decent run in our squad. COR, Fox and Rose should all come in ahead of Jack as they have upside (maybe).
                        If Jack is brought in, it makes a mockery of rebuilding for the future. As well, the form of others such as Fox, Rose, COR, Stoddart and Cameron is far superior.

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                        • dimelb
                          pr. dim-melb; m not f
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 6889

                          #42
                          I love Kieren and have great respect for what he has achieved, especially in our most recent flag, but if he is running into old age fragility he should stay in the Seconds as Mark26 suggests. It's an arena where he still has a lot to offer.
                          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                          • Ruck'n'Roll
                            Ego alta, ergo ictus
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 3990

                            #43
                            I think Ronke may have forgotten what got him into the team in the first place, he's only making 1.6 tackles per game this year
                            His 7 goals against the Hawks was astonishing, but tricky to repeat, perhaps he should aim to equal the 10 tackles he made during that game instead - a more achievable goal?

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                            • Matty10
                              Senior Player
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 1331

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                              If Jack is brought in, it makes a mockery of rebuilding for the future. As well, the form of others such as Fox, Rose, COR, Stoddart and Cameron is far superior.
                              I don't think the process of rebuilding necessitates the removal of veterans from the list or just playing youth. There has to be a balance and a plan to carry it out. Having said that, you also have to be getting value from your senior players. I am not sure we are getting much value from Jack and expect that this is his last year of AFL. Other senior players, like McVeigh for instance, can add stability and leadership that is needed across all lines. I hope he comes back into the side soon, and given his form, I hope he also runs around for us next year.

                              Jack should only play if the coaches (and other players) believe he is offering something that is needed on-field other than what the stat sheet shows.

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                              • Swanny40519
                                Regular in the side.
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 469

                                #45
                                I would hope to see some team and positional changes that will enable us to win a game - which would provide a great pressure valve relief for the players, improve the negative attitude of a lot of supporters and be damned good overall for the club.

                                Agree with above - we need to find the right balance and based on our injury list and current form of some of the younger players is not easy. I have been critical of Horse many times in the past, but I think the penny has dropped and he is trying to play a more attacking style of football, however the talent list and form is not good.

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