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So many commentators are over rating their list, just having a young list doesn't automatically equate to good times ahead. They have a stack of first round picks on their list but not many of them have shown much to indicate they will even make solid players let alone players capable of fulfilling their expected drafted talent. Got a number of key players about to retire as well.
I'm confident they won't be seeing finals for several seasons and I like that thought!Comment
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[QUOTE=Sandridge;776497]Absolutely spot on! They hovered over us, waiting for us to die in the 90s so that they could move in on the Sydney market.
Long may they languish at the bottom of the ladder
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Big story in the Hun today regarding making the 1870-1896 VFA period of Australian Rules history officially included in VFL/AFL history. If it happens, the South Melbourne/Sydney Swans will be recognised as having won 10 premierships, a 5 premiership increase. Not too bad! Geelong will gain 7 premierships....and Carlton will gain 6 and go to the top of the GF winning ladder. The Magpies will gain only one.....so get ready for Eddie to do all in his power to stop this move.
SMFC/SydneySwans.....ten premierships!! Go SWANS!!Comment
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Maybe the Brisbane Lions may pick up Fitzroy's but I'm not sure they were there from the start or if they came into the new 'VFA', once the VFL split away from it or if Fitzroy even has any to add anyway.....but as for the others, no, because they didn't play in the earliest years of the VFA.....and that is fair enough.
The history of the current national league, the AFL, can only be traced back to the VFA/VFL days and has nothing to do with the WAFL, SANFL etc.....besides the Lions and Swans (and Port Adelaide who were not connected to the VFA/VFL anyway), all the other interstate teams have no connection to the AFL/VFL/VFA or any other league for that matter.....as before joining the 'AFL', they did not even exist. They have NO prior history.....Last edited by stevoswan; 5 June 2019, 06:26 PM.Comment
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While it makes me wanna barf into my dinner as I type this, I sorta agree with Chins on this one.
While all of the Premiers and runner ups from 1870-1897 come from foundation VFL clubs,
Year Winner Runner-up
1877 Carlton Melbourne
1878 Geelong Melbourne
1879 Geelong Carlton
1880 Geelong South Melb
1881 South Melb. Geelong
1882 Geelong Essendon
1883 Geelong South Melb
1884 Geelong Essendon
1885 South Melb Essendon
1886 Geelong South Melb
1887 Carlton Geelong
Victorian Football Association premiership officially established
1888 South Melb Geelong
1889 South Melb Carlton
1890 South Melb Carlton
1891 Essendon Carlton
1892 Essendon Fitzroy
1893 Essendon Melbourne
1894 Essendon Melbourne
1895 Fitzroy Collingwood, Geelong, Melbourne
1896 Collingwood South Melb
Other non-eventual VFL clubs would have competed during those seasons. Furthermore, from 1877 until 1887, the premiership was a title given to the best performing team, determined largely by press consensus. These premierships, as well as premierships between 1870 and 1876 decided in the same manner prior to the foundation of the VFA, were at the time an informal title, but have since been considered official.
To me, incorporating 1870-1896 is somewhat contrived and manufactured. Clubs should recognise their own FVA premierships, but the AFL precursor VFL competition commenced in 1897 when 6 clubs split from the then VFA to form a new league.
This is the only time I’ve agreed with Chins ... I feel dirty!Last edited by 0918330512; 5 June 2019, 08:18 PM.Comment
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It's all well and good to luxuriate in Carlton's suffering, but their 1st draft pick goes to Adelaide this year. It's in everyone's interest, not least the Swans, that they rise like Lazarus and climb above us on the ladder.Comment
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