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  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8490

    #91
    Originally posted by royboy42
    It's no surprise to me that people are a bit confused about injured players' progress.
    Swans' management has played ducks and drakes with us for years now.
    Players just disappear from injured lists; estimates of return dates seem to be whatever number the representative thinks of at that moment.
    I think it started with Roosy, and has been enthusiastically embraced by Longmire.
    Beats me as to why.
    The first person that I remember not playing, while not being on the injury list, is Jared Crouch: who was quite injury prone at the end of his career. His reasoning was, that if his injury was revealed, then there was a chance that his opponents would target that injury, once he started playing again. Maybe some people are still choosing to do that? Though these days, the ones not playing and not on the injury list, usually seem to be obscure rookies; such as, McLean this year, and Pink last year. Which gives rise to the suspicion, that whoever compiled the lists, had just forgotten that they existed.

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    • MattW
      Veterans List
      • May 2011
      • 4193

      #92
      Originally posted by liz
      I think it's pretty clear from what the Swans have published that Rowbottom is touted to play, at least at this stage. They start by saying they've made one change to the "squad" before proceeding to name five players. But the accompanying picture of Rowbottom suggests to me that he's in.
      Are you inferring Rowbottom's selection from the publication of his photo? That would suggest that the selection panel has informed the media team they've already selected Rowbottom to play and either directed the media team to publish his photo or the media team have taken it upon themselves to do so, for the purpose of flagging his impending selection. I'm not sure either option seems that likely.

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16733

        #93
        Originally posted by MattW
        Are you inferring Rowbottom's selection from the publication of his photo? That would suggest that the selection panel has informed the media team they've already selected Rowbottom to play and either directed the media team to publish his photo or the media team have taken it upon themselves to do so, for the purpose of flagging his impending selection. I'm not sure either option seems that likely.
        I'm suggesting that the opening sentence that they've made one change indicates that they have already decided upon the team, irrespective of the fact that the final team won't officially be announced until tomorrow afternoon. So they probably gave the media team a team sheet with Rowbottom in the team and the other four "ins" listed as emergencies - just updating the template they've used every week until now, since this is our first Sunday game of the year.

        And without thinking, the media team has then added a photo of Rowbottom because he's been named in the team.

        Had they not started by saying just one change had been made I might not interpret the picture of Rowbottom as a clue. But they did.

        If I'm wrong when the teams are announced tomorrow, I'll crawl back into my hole.

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        • MattW
          Veterans List
          • May 2011
          • 4193

          #94
          Originally posted by liz
          I'm suggesting that the opening sentence that they've made one change indicates that they have already decided upon the team, irrespective of the fact that the final team won't officially be announced until tomorrow afternoon. So they probably gave the media team a team sheet with Rowbottom in the team and the other four "ins" listed as emergencies - just updating the template they've used every week until now, since this is our first Sunday game of the year.

          And without thinking, the media team has then added a photo of Rowbottom because he's been named in the team.

          Had they not started by saying just one change had been made I might not interpret the picture of Rowbottom as a clue. But they did.

          If I'm wrong when the teams are announced tomorrow, I'll crawl back into my hole.
          I guess my interpretation of the suggestion they have made one change is the reference to Fox out. I also thought they finalised the changes after a final training session on the Friday.

          Anyway, your theory is plausible and your suggestion in the final paragraph is too harsh on yourself. I'd suggest neither of us need crawl anywhere whether or not Rowbottom is selected tomorrow.

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          • Markwebbos
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            #95
            Now I’m torn ...

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            • Meg
              Go Swannies!
              Site Admin
              • Aug 2011
              • 4828

              #96
              Originally posted by MattW
              I guess my interpretation of the suggestion they have made one change is the reference to Fox out. I also thought they finalised the changes after a final training session on the Friday.
              Yep. Liz over-thinking it on this one.

              (And even if Rowbottom ends up being the the one in Matt and I can’t be proven wrong [emoji6]!)

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              • Aprilbr
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2016
                • 1803

                #97
                Originally posted by rb4x
                I wonder if the injury ladder on the AFL site understates the impact injuries have had on the Swans due to injured Swans not being reported. Sydney are 7th for being impacted by injuries but are we to assume that Ling, Fox, Pink, McLean and Reynolds are all injury free at present. None of them are on the injury list.
                I read recently that Ling has suffered yet another injury setback. This time a patella tendon issue (knee swelling). It's expected to keep him out for a number of weeks. The guy can't take a break. Will we ever see whether he is up to it? A Number 14 selection too.

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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16733

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Meg
                  Yep. Liz over-thinking it on this one.

                  (And even if Rowbottom ends up being the the one in Matt and I can’t be proven wrong [emoji6]!)
                  Whatever I'm doing, it's not overthinking. It was my instantaneous response when I read the team news. If anything I might be underthinking it.

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                  • cherub
                    Warming the Bench
                    • May 2010
                    • 239

                    #99
                    Charlie Gardiner said it was a plantaris injury. Unfortunate, but probably better than a patellar tendon injury.

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                    • 707
                      Veterans List
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6204

                      Originally posted by Aprilbr
                      I read recently that Ling has suffered yet another injury setback. This time a patella tendon issue (knee swelling). It's expected to keep him out for a number of weeks. The guy can't take a break. Will we ever see whether he is up to it? A Number 14 selection too.
                      Will be like a new draftee when he does finally get fit, no rush, he's still young and we're tracking nicely this year to have our highest draft pick in 25 years.

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                      • AnnieH
                        RWOs Black Sheep
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 11332

                        Wet coke budgies vs the ressies. Nice.
                        I'm still available. Although I just got reminded that it's a long weekend... hurry up and pick me, the window of opportunity is closing fast!!

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                        • ugg
                          Can you feel it?
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15961

                          Final changes

                          In: Rose, Thurlow
                          Out: Fox, Menzel
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                          • 707
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6204

                            Originally posted by ugg
                            Final changes

                            In: Rose, Thurlow
                            Out: Fox, Menzel
                            We've been asking for it, now we've got it. Can Rose finally deliver at senior level, what role will he play? I'm excited for Rose, ball in his court now.

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                            • liz
                              Veteran
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16733

                              Originally posted by ugg
                              Final changes

                              In: Rose, Thurlow
                              Out: Fox, Menzel
                              Into my hole I crawl...

                              I'm surprised at them dropping Menzel after a single game back, unless he pulled up sore from the experience. However, I am very happy to see Rose finally get an opportunity this year at senior level. It's hard to imagine he could have done anything more at NEAFL level to earn the chance.

                              I also wonder if these changes signal something else we've been screaming out for. Thurlow doesn't really have a position other than as a medium sized defender. Fox has mostly been playing in the midfield. So will we see another medium sized defender shifted to the midfield to maintain a similar balance...

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                              • Meg
                                Go Swannies!
                                Site Admin
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 4828

                                Originally posted by liz
                                Into my hole I crawl...

                                I'm surprised at them dropping Menzel after a single game back, unless he pulled up sore from the experience. However, I am very happy to see Rose finally get an opportunity this year at senior level. It's hard to imagine he could have done anything more at NEAFL level to earn the chance.
                                [emoji16][emoji16]

                                Now if Horse moves Mills into the midfield .... we will really be happy!

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