#AFL Finals week 3 weekly discussion thread

[Hotpotato]

He just stated that he was disappointed.
Dermot thought he shouldn’t lose a week and was at a loss to see any action that warranted it : “he didn’t strike him, he didn’t eye gauge , he didn’t belt his head into the ground, so what was the week for?”
Dunstall reckoned he should not have put himself in the position yet again.

I don’t think they have much hope without him, nor do the bookies .

[Blood Fever]

Spot on.
I for one hope GWS lose by one point, so it inarguable that this vile little germ cost his team a GF berth and possibly a flag.

Embarrassing and unjust verdict given that it was emphasised that the case was stand alone.

[Melbourne_Blood]

Embarrassing and unjust verdict given that it was emphasised that the case was stand alone.

Are you happy with a player getting off who has tried to claw his hand ( as in made a claw action with his hands ) over the eye of a player on the bottom of a pack , a player with no means to defend himself ? I’m not . He’s behaved like a dirty rat and even if you separate the two , the footage shows a claw action raking over the eye of a buried player . Bye Toby, enjoy mad Monday ! Maybe dress as cat woman [emoji250]


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[stevoswan]

Tonight's decision re: Greene has probably just delayed GWS's exit from the finals by a week anyway. He should have got a week for the Bontempelli incident and without him, GWS do not beat Brisbane last weekend.....and we'd all be looking forward to the tantilising clash of Lions v Magpies.....2002/3 anyone?

No doubt Greene has largely bought this on himself but the AFL, via their inept tribunal, have really stuffed this one up.

[dejavoodoo44]

Since Greene started his career in 2012, he has been charged 18 times. From these, he has been suspended for seven matches and racked up $26,350 in fines. I'm sure that for many of these, the familiar arguments would've been run: there was limited contact, there was no malice involved, it really was out of character, it was just an unfortunate accident, blah, blah, blah, blah. Strange, the majority of players, many of whom probably have less talent and coordination than Greene, go through their entire careers, without having even one of those unfortunate accidents.

[707]

Greene expressed “remorse” during his previous guilty finding. Was there any remorse this time?

Remorse? never seen such false remorse, not an ounce of remorse in Toby Greene for any of his disgraceful acts on and off the footy field.

I too hope GWS go down by a very narrow margin just to rub it in.

We know the public face of GWS on this matter but they must be livid that Greene keeps doing these things.

[Blood Fever]

Tonight's decision re: Greene has probably just delayed GWS's exit from the finals by a week anyway. He should have got a week for the Bontempelli incident and without him, GWS do not beat Brisbane last weekend.....and we'd all be looking forward to the tantilising clash of Lions v Magpies.....2002/3 anyone?

No doubt Greene has largely bought this on himself but the AFL, via their inept tribunal, have really stuffed this one up.

They have a genius for stuffing things up. You could have an endless Utopia type tv series based on the AFL.

[AnnieH]

My Predictions for Week 3.
If Greene's bid fails, I will self-impose a weeks ban for myself on RWO, because I will have lost the capacity for rational thought. (Sheeple, save yourself the trouble of typing a predictable response)

Barry?
Are you there?
Where are you Barry?
Baaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrryyyyyyyy.
Coooooooo-eeeeeeeeeeeee.

BWA HA HA HA HA
I bloody-well told you that high contact is against the rules, especially when you do it deliberately.
See ya next Tuesday.

[KTigers]

Tonight's decision re: Greene has probably just delayed GWS's exit from the finals by a week anyway. He should have got a week for the Bontempelli incident and without him, GWS do not beat Brisbane last weekend.....and we'd all be looking forward to the tantilising clash of Lions v Magpies.....2002/3 anyone?

No doubt Greene has largely bought this on himself but the AFL, via their inept tribunal, have really stuffed this one up.

There is of course the 2005 premiership which we wouldn't have if the tribunal hadn't given another repeat offender (Bazza) a
free pass for belting Maguire in the prelim...
I've been around long enough to remember the Swans chartering a flight of QCs down to Melbourne to explain the unfortunate mix up
between Andrew Dunkley's fingers and James Hird's face in the 96 Prelim, and the photos of Hird's mug wearing his Brownlow
that week.
I keep saying. This high horse thing. It's pretty slippery up there.

[Hotpotato]

What a circus.
We had one, Barry Hall, nice bloke, short fuse.
10 matches.
Toby’s act last week, inconclusive, should be playing.

[KTigers]

Barry?
Are you there?
Where are you Barry?
Baaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrryyyyyyyy.
Coooooooo-eeeeeeeeeeeee.

BWA HA HA HA HA
I bloody-well told you that high contact is against the rules, especially when you do it deliberately.
See ya next Tuesday.

I think Barry's point is that the tribunal is so inconsistent they may as well call it a day. High contact?
is it really against the rules? Depends on which day of the week it is. Ablett Jnr would probably say no,
and the MRP agreed with him... 3 times.

[jono2707]

Couldn't have happened to a nicer team. And Whitfield out to boot.
Poor loves.
Go Pies.

[Thunder Shaker]

The Tribunal process is so opaque now.

When they brought in the points and gradings, it made the system easy to understand. Everyone could understand what it meant to have 93.75 points on a player's record for 12 months or how penalties for bad records applied.

Now? That's gone and with it the consistency. A player like Greene could go up 18 times in eight years and get off with fine after fine. How does that even work?

[Bloods05]

There is of course the 2005 premiership which we wouldn't have if the tribunal hadn't given another repeat offender (Bazza) a
free pass for belting Maguire in the prelim...
I've been around long enough to remember the Swans chartering a flight of QCs down to Melbourne to explain the unfortunate mix up
between Andrew Dunkley's fingers and James Hird's face in the 96 Prelim, and the photos of Hird's mug wearing his Brownlow
that week.
I keep saying. This high horse thing. It's pretty slippery up there.

It's nothing to do with the moral high ground. It's a simple matter of right and wrong. It was wrong that Barry Hall got off in 2005, but I'm bloody glad he did because we won the flag. Yes, that's inconsistent. As Oscar Wilde once said, consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative.

It was wrong that Toby Greene got off after the Bontempelli incident. It was right that his appeal failed. I'm glad about that because Toby is a dirty player, and GWS are a manufactured team without a soul, and I don't like them.

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The Tribunal process is so opaque now.

When they brought in the points and gradings, it made the system easy to understand. Everyone could understand what it meant to have 93.75 points on a player's record for 12 months or how penalties for bad records applied.

Now? That's gone and with it the consistency. A player like Greene could go up 18 times in eight years and get off with fine after fine. How does that even work?

Absolutely right, I see it the same way. There has always been inconsistency, but it is now literally impossible to predict. But this time they got it right.

[Sandrevan]

Princess Toby finally got a suspension. I thought he would get off. He should have been suspended for his attack on Bont and his actions against Neale was much less severe. It just shows the stupidity of the tribunal system. But princess Toby isn't the first to exploit the situation.

Ablett, Rance, Cotchin

Mick Malthouse was spot on earlier today on the radio when he said the system was 'Club Centric' and 'player centric'.

For the games..

I don't like Richmond but I can't see them being beaten by Geelong.
GWS v Magpies - I would like GWS to win but can't see it happening losing both Princess Toby and Whitfield.

The AFL will support GWS to a point (the Bont incident) but the old boys club wants an all Melbourne GF. Collingwood vs Richmond is very good for business.