#AFL Finals week 3 weekly discussion thread

[stevoswan]

The AFL will support GWS to a point (the Bont incident) but the old boys club wants an all Melbourne GF. Collingwood vs Richmond is very good for business.

So they get rid of a real threat to Collingwood (Brisbane) by allowing Greene to play against the Lions.....we can't have an 'interstate fairytale'.

[Mel_C]

I'm at the game tonight. Surrounded by ferals!!

[Velour&Ruffles]

There is of course the 2005 premiership which we wouldn't have if the tribunal hadn't given another repeat offender (Bazza) a
free pass for belting Maguire in the prelim...
I've been around long enough to remember the Swans chartering a flight of QCs down to Melbourne to explain the unfortunate mix up
between Andrew Dunkley's fingers and James Hird's face in the 96 Prelim, and the photos of Hird's mug wearing his Brownlow
that week.
I keep saying. This high horse thing. It's pretty slippery up there.

You may've been around too long, rather than long enough, because your memory has failed you on a couple of vital facts in these scenarios. It's bad enough copping this crap from other supporters, let alone Swans fans themselves getting it wrong.

First, Barry Hall was NOT given a free pass. He was NOT cleared. He WAS found guilty. He was given a week. Under the rules at the time - which applied to everyone - he got a week's discount because of the length of time he'd been "clean" (hard to believe given what happened 2006 onwards but for the previous 4 years he had been a model citizen). So comparisons of 2005 Baz to Toby Greene are way, way off.

Second, Dunkley wasn't even CITED until the Wednesday of Grand Final week! We were in effect denied any of the usual ability to prepare a defence and appeal in a timely fashion, plus having all those processes going on would have meant we'd have been unsettled right up to game day. It was mindbogglingly incompetent mismanagement by the AFL and they absolutely deserved to be taken to court. The little grub Greene had effectively already had one of his appeals heard 24 hours before Dunkley was even cited. Again, a totally different situation.

I know there is a lot of revisionist history about us now, largely sponsored by that fat multi-chinned @@@@@, but no need to add misinformed weight to his David Irving efforts.

[Mel_C]

Good end to the quarter by the cats. It's kept the Richmond supporters around me quiet for now. Hopefully the cats can keep it up.

[Faunac8]

Pretty high quality game played at speed and enjoyable to watch.
Meyers is having a great game and has some confidence for a first year player. We have some work to do in the offseason to catch up to skill level and speed that the top teams are capable of. But I still feel confident we are headed in the right direction.

[Mel_C]

The pressure by Geelong as well as the perceived pressure is causing Richmond to turn the ball over. I can't remember the last time their skills were so bad...especially Dusty.

[stevoswan]

Geelong were great in the second but Richmond are making a statement now. Cats must steady and regain momentum....

[KTigers]

You may've been around too long, rather than long enough, because your memory has failed you on a couple of vital facts in these scenarios. It's bad enough copping this crap from other supporters, let alone Swans fans themselves getting it wrong.

First, Barry Hall was NOT given a free pass. He was NOT cleared. He WAS found guilty. He was given a week. Under the rules at the time - which applied to everyone - he got a week's discount because of the length of time he'd been "clean" (hard to believe given what happened 2006 onwards but for the previous 4 years he had been a model citizen). So comparisons of 2005 Baz to Toby Greene are way, way off.

Second, Dunkley wasn't even CITED until the Wednesday of Grand Final week! We were in effect denied any of the usual ability to prepare a defence and appeal in a timely fashion, plus having all those processes going on would have meant we'd have been unsettled right up to game day. It was mindbogglingly incompetent mismanagement by the AFL and they absolutely deserved to be taken to court. The little grub Greene had effectively already had one of his appeals heard 24 hours before Dunkley was even cited. Again, a totally different situation.

I know there is a lot of revisionist history about us now, largely sponsored by that fat multi-chinned @@@@@, but no need to add misinformed weight to his David Irving efforts.

David I***** ? Not sure that name should ever be mentioned anywhere.

Re Barry Hall ; wasn't he suspended in 2002 for five weeks for eye gouging Mathew Primus.

[Mel_C]

Hmm it's turned around in the 3rd quarter. Richmond with all the pressure and Geelong turning the ball over. Richmond have all the confidence now.

[KTigers]

Hmm it's turned around in the 3rd quarter. Richmond with all the pressure and Geelong turning the ball over. Richmond have all the confidence now.

Pretty good game. Time for the Danger to step up. Go Cats.

[Velour&Ruffles]

David I***** ? Not sure that name should ever be mentioned anywhere.

Re Barry Hall ; wasn't he suspended in 2002 for five weeks for eye gouging Mathew Primus.

So he was. So he was only clean for the previous 3.5 seasons rather than 4. Not sure that changes the analysis (given 3 seasons was the tipping point for the discount rule). And over his last 3.5 seasons that little slime has had 11 (yes 11) convictions at the tribunal. I'm still pretty comfortable with my point that 2005 Baz and 2019 Greene are not the same thing.

[0918330512]

Well that sucked. Do you think Hawkins might have been worth 4 goals tonight?

[stevoswan]

Well that sucked. Do you think Hawkins might have been worth 4 goals tonight?

Tom would be feeling pretty stupid right now......

[Blood Fever]

Pretty good game. Time for the Danger to step up. Go Cats.

Danger did not fire a shot after half time when most needed. Not for the first time in a big game.

[aardvark]

Ah the Handbaggers, never fail to disappoint. I wonder if that was Ablett's last game? The look on Hawkins face at the end said it all. He will never get over that.