#AFL Finals week 3 weekly discussion thread

[Hotpotato]

Don’t forget Tigers we’re missing Rance.
The Tigers fans must all rob empty homes to have the money to attend all their games and finals and afford all their T-bones.
They put on a show .

[Blood Fever]

The Tribunal process is so opaque now.

When they brought in the points and gradings, it made the system easy to understand. Everyone could understand what it meant to have 93.75 points on a player's record for 12 months or how penalties for bad records applied.

Now? That's gone and with it the consistency. A player like Greene could go up 18 times in eight years and get off with fine after fine. How does that even work?

It's a reflection of society in general and the AFL in particular, that the following conflicts of interests occurred in the Toby Greene case leading into the Preliminary Final against Collingwood:

The person who laid the charge and imposed the one week ban played all his long career at Collingwood, including the 1990 flag. Two members of the first tribunal were ex Collingwood players. One of them played in the 1990 flag as well. This same person was actually interviewed on TV in the Collingwood rooms after the game enthusiastically talking up their chances in the Preliminary Final. Even if all these people are as straight as a die, it used to be that if there was only a hint of a possible conflict of interest, then somebody else without any hint of a conflict would take their place. No wonder GWS are seething, especially with the Collingwood president being the king of conflicts of interests. Giants CEO has called this out in the press, basically hinting at corruption. AFL have said they won't fine him for his comments which is astonishing in itself. Absolute circus.

[chalbilto]

It's a reflection of society in general and the AFL in particular, that the following conflicts of interests occurred in the Toby Greene case leading into the Preliminary Final against Collingwood:

The person who laid the charge and imposed the one week ban played all his long career at Collingwood, including the 1990 flag. Two members of the first tribunal were ex Collingwood players. One of them played in the 1990 flag as well. This same person was actually interviewed on TV in the Collingwood rooms after the game enthusiastically talking up their chances in the Preliminary Final. Even if all these people are as straight as a die, it used to be that if there was only a hint of a possible conflict of interest, then somebody else without any hint of a conflict would take their place. No wonder GWS are seething, especially with the Collingwood president being the king of conflicts of interests. Giants CEO has called this out in the press, basically hinting at corruption. AFL have said they won't fine him for his comments which is astonishing in itself. Absolute circus.

Maybe so for now, but the AFL is very vindictive and no doubt down the track will penalize GWS, eg. the action they took with the trade restrictions imposed on the Swans a few years ago even though they did nothing wrong and abided by the rules!

[stevoswan]

Former Suns running around last night.....Lynch, Prestia, Caddy and Ablett.....add to that all the other high GC draft picks now playing south of the NSW border.

Poor Suns....gifted a chance to succeed by the AFL then slowly reamed by the AFL's FA rules.....and who gains? Victorian power clubs.

[KTigers]

Former Suns running around last night.....Lynch, Prestia, Caddy and Ablett.....add to that all the other high GC draft picks now playing south of the NSW border.

Yes, I heard one of the commentators going on about how great that was....

[stevoswan]

Yes, I heard one of the commentators going on about how great that was....

Yeah, me too.....they just can't hide their dumb bias. Like the AFL, they feel safe in the knowledge that their voice represents the heartland of the footy league and that most viewers don't even see it's inequities.....or if they do, are happy for it to be this way.

I used to be one of them....as a Swans fan, when the Swans first went to Sydney, if we didn't win it, I didn't want the cup leaving Victoria.....now I want it to leave Victoria every year.

[Mel_C]

There are more GWS supporters here at the MCG than turn up to the SCG!

[Mel_C]

Looks like Davis is injured. GWS don't have much luck.

I think GWS have done well to stop the Pies running game. They have to stop giving away frees though.

[Blue Sun]

Good kick, Cameron. Hoping the Giants win today.

[Blood Fever]

Good kick, Cameron. Hoping the Giants win today.

Umps doing GWS no favours

[Hotpotato]

Frees
15 - 8
Pies

[Mel_C]

Umps doing GWS no favours

Yes I agree. They should have had a holding the ball free right in front. However, Mumford has to control himself and stop giving away unnecessary frees.

It's actually interesting watching as a neutral with an unbiased view and listening to the sooking from the Pies supporters after every contest when they don't get a free.

[S.S. Bleeder]

Wow. Pies in big trouble. Such a shame ????

[S.S. Bleeder]

Yes I agree. They should have had a holding the ball free right in front. However, Mumford has to control himself and stop giving away unnecessary frees.

It's actually interesting watching as a neutral with an unbiased view and listening to the sooking from the Pies supporters after every contest when they don't get a free.

The Collingwood players aren't much better than their supporters. They claim deliberate OOB every single time.

[Sandridge]

Sheesh, could the commentators sound more disappointed??