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  • Thunder Shaker
    Aut vincere aut mori
    • Apr 2004
    • 4160

    Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
    Based on watching the top 5's highlights packages, I'm picking Elijah. There is a bit of Dusty and Danger in the way he goes about his work against junior opposition. I think he is described as a balanced mid who can push forward. The balanced angle is most probably a reflection on how good he is all round as a junior and there's no reason he couldn't develop into whatever midfielder (or even medium forward) we want him to.
    I like Hollands as a prospect, but I think we're more likely to draft a KP player at pick 3 (most likely McDonald 196cm KPF, Thilthorpe 201cm KPF/R or Grainger-Barras 194cm KPD). This draft has some decent talls rated in the top 10 and we will need to recruit a tall player after delisting two of them.
    "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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    • Thunder Shaker
      Aut vincere aut mori
      • Apr 2004
      • 4160

      Originally posted by bloodspirit
      Crows poised to match Crouch offer after bid for pick No.2 falls short

      Thank Mildred! We are now assured of one of Logan, Hollands or Tilthorpe. Plus Campbell and Gulden. That's good enough for me.

      In future off seasons we'll be able to focus on needs and switch to trading for good players.
      Good news there regarding Adelaide's compensation.

      Why not McDonald with our pick? Don't you rate him, wrong player, or are you just not expecting that he will still be available at our pick?
      "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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      • Thunder Shaker
        Aut vincere aut mori
        • Apr 2004
        • 4160

        The AFL website has listed the "fantastic five" of the open draft pool as Logan McDonald, Riley Thilthorpe, Elijah Hollands, Denver Grainger-Barras and Will Phillips (while omitting Jamarra Ugle-Hagan because he's not available in the open draft pool).

        Cal Twomey ranked these six players in the top 7 of his rankings last month. The other player in his top 7 was Braeden Campbell.
        "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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        • Markwebbos
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2016
          • 7186

          Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
          Good news there regarding Adelaide's compensation.

          Why not McDonald with our pick? Don't you rate him, wrong player, or are you just not expecting that he will still be available at our pick?
          McDonald unlikely to be available. I think we take best available = hopefully Hollands

          Feeling very hopeful the Crows won’t get pick 2

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          • Thunder Shaker
            Aut vincere aut mori
            • Apr 2004
            • 4160

            Originally posted by Markwebbos
            McDonald unlikely to be available. I think we take best available = hopefully Hollands

            Feeling very hopeful the Crows won’t get pick 2
            I would be happy with any of the fantastic five, as shown in my previous post summarising a list from the AFL website.

            That AFL article also had some interesting speculation regarding how these standout players mean other clubs would be very keen to trade into the top 5 of the draft, and how the five clubs holding those picks would be very reluctant to part with them. I think that kills any speculation on whether we will be trading pick 3 - we won't be.
            "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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            • 707
              Veterans List
              • Aug 2009
              • 6204

              Wow, some very good news up on the AFL website as highlighted by earlier posts.

              Saints have come to their senses it seems and not offering well overs for a non damaging injury prone midfield accumulator. That is great news for us and with Twomey suggesting the top five is firmed up, we shouldn't see a Campbell bid before Dodo at pick 7 plus pick 3 will land us one of the fab five.

              Sunday evening couldn't be any better than this!

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              • bloodspirit
                Clubman
                • Apr 2015
                • 4448

                Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                Good news there regarding Adelaide's compensation.

                Why not McDonald with our pick? Don't you rate him, wrong player, or are you just not expecting that he will still be available at our pick?
                Sorry. Logan = McDonald. He looks like the best option for us but I doubt he will still be available.
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                • bloodspirit
                  Clubman
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 4448

                  I agree it makes for a good Sunday night.

                  And I am feeling so grateful to Hawthorn (!!) for soundly beating the Suns in Round 17. Could really help our rebuild for years to come.
                  All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                  • Ralph Dawg
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 1729

                    According to Hun, Archie Smith from the Lions is exploring his options but we be re-rookied if nothing comes up. Surely he would have to be a better option than Hickey?

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                    • mattybloods
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 482

                      Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                      According to Hun, Archie Smith from the Lions is exploring his options but we be re-rookied if nothing comes up. Surely he would have to be a better option than Hickey?
                      On paper Hickey is better but Smith is younger and possibly more potential. I think it really depends on whether they think Naismith will come good, with Hickey the better short term option and Smith long term. Smith explored his options last year too and got no interest

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                      • Melbourne_Blood
                        Senior Player
                        • May 2010
                        • 3312

                        Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                        According to Hun, Archie Smith from the Lions is exploring his options but we be re-rookied if nothing comes up. Surely he would have to be a better option than Hickey?
                        Has Archie ever had a solid run in the seniors ? I don’t know much about him but someone on here from Brisbane ( was it you RD?) has talked positively about him in the not too distant past.


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                        • Thunder Shaker
                          Aut vincere aut mori
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 4160

                          Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                          Has Archie ever had a solid run in the seniors ? I don’t know much about him but someone on here from Brisbane ( was it you RD?) has talked positively about him in the not too distant past.
                          Career statistics - Archie Smith
                          "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                          • Ralph Dawg
                            Senior Player
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 1729

                            Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                            Has Archie ever had a solid run in the seniors ? I don’t know much about him but someone on here from Brisbane ( was it you RD?) has talked positively about him in the not too distant past.


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                            He's never had a good run up here. Stuck behind Stef Martin and then Big O has overtaken him as well. I've seen him play a few Neafl games and also preseason matches and he's very athletic and good in the ruck contest, being a former basketballer. He's rucked alot against Dawson Simpson, Darcy Cameron and Tom Nicholls (amongst others) over the last few years in the Neafl and has beat all these guys according to a mate of mine who is a mad Lions fan. Disposal is a bit dodgy is the biggest knock on him. I would imagine our recruiters would know him well so if they don't rate him, then there clearly are things they have seen that they don't like.

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                            • Melbourne_Blood
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2010
                              • 3312

                              Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                              Thanks, I did have a look at them already but stats don’t tell the full story , especially for guys who haven’t played heaps at the top level.


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                              • Markwebbos
                                Veterans List
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 7186

                                Hogan to GW$, must admit I am slightly disappointed.

                                Kane Cornes' premiership clock has us closer to a premiership than the Giants, Dockers or Suns

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