2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • 707
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2009
    • 6204

    Originally posted by The Runner
    There is no world where Hawthorn would give up a pick up move up to #2, to then use that to bid on Campbell, who they could pick at 6. There's zero logic to that fear.
    Put nothing past that evil empire from Dingley

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    • waswan
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2015
      • 2047

      Hawks say if you get LMac we will bid on Campbell
      If you take DGB, we wont bid on Campbell

      If Sydney do more pick swaps tomorrow id say is because they want Lmac and they know a hawk bid is coming

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      • Steve
        Regular in the Side
        • Jan 2003
        • 676

        Originally posted by waswan
        Hawks say if you get LMac we will bid on Campbell
        If you take DGB, we wont bid on Campbell
        And we tell them fine, take him and we'll bring him home in 2 years for a 2nd round pick. So in that scenario by 2023 we'd have both McDonald and Campbell, and they have a 2023 2nd round pick to show for it all.

        That won't happen, but Hawthorn don't have a lot to offer North to sweeten the deal. Is adding pick 24 enough (which is probably closer to 30 by the time it's used) - I guess anything is a bonus if they get the same player at 5 as they would at 2, but you'd think they'd still push for more, which would mean 2021 picks (but surely Hawthorn wouldn't offer their first pick, meaning a 2021 2nd round pick is still not of huge benefit to North and they'd wait another year to use it).

        And you'd think Hawthorn would want to use pick 24, given they need to add as much young talent as possible.

        Gold Coast also went early and traded pick 27 to Geelong, so you'd think they would have at least asked North the question whether they'd take that to swap picks 2 for 6 - which is not much different to what Hawthorn could be offering.

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        • waswan
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2015
          • 2047

          Originally posted by Steve
          And we tell them fine, take him and we'll bring him home in 2 years for a 2nd round pick.
          We dont play hard ball, we would more likely offer 2x 1st rounders and cap relief to get him back

          p.s.I dont think we are in any danger of not landing both Academy kids

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          • Markwebbos
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            All three phantom drafts I've looked at this evening (Age, Herald-Sun and AFL's latest) have the same top 5 being: JUH, RT, EH, DGB and LMcD. I find it extraordinary that they match. And I'm still surprised they all think we'll take DGB over LMcD.

            I can't imagine KB has been telling the truth either. Only one more sleep until we find out.

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            • waswan
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2015
              • 2047

              Less than a week ago Lmac was the best after JUH

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              • dejavoodoo44
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2015
                • 8494

                Originally posted by AnnieH
                I noticed via socials that the boys are back training... albeit with their shirts on.
                Now that you mention it, it does seem that the male sports bra is now out of fashion. Thankfully. I never quite understood its existence?

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                • dejavoodoo44
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 8494

                  Originally posted by Markwebbos
                  All three phantom drafts I've looked at this evening (Age, Herald-Sun and AFL's latest) have the same top 5 being: JUH, RT, EH, DGB and LMcD. I find it extraordinary that they match. And I'm still surprised they all think we'll take DGB over LMcD.

                  I can't imagine KB has been telling the truth either. Only one more sleep until we find out.
                  I'll be very happy if McDonald slips. I'm starting to get the feeling, that the draft gurus are starting to value 2019 form, over that of 2020 form. Of course, it's quite likely that the club recruiters don't see it that way.

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                  • Melbourne_Blood
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2010
                    • 3312

                    Happy draft day ! Does anyone else get the feeling this will be a historic draft for us, the one we look back at in 5 years and say “ that really put the finishing touches on our young list “, as we hoist up our second consecutive premiership trophy.


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                    • Mark26
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 1535

                      Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                      Happy draft day ! Does anyone else get the feeling this will be a historic draft for us, the one we look back at in 5 years and say “ that really put the finishing touches on our young list “, as we hoist up our second consecutive premiership trophy.


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                      I love the phrase Happy Draft Day! Feels a bit like Christmas. This could be a great draft for us and let's hope, as you say, we add those finishing touches. It starts at 7 tonight, doesn't it?

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                      • Legs Akimbo
                        Grand Poobah
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 2809

                        Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                        Happy draft day ! Does anyone else get the feeling this will be a historic draft for us, the one we look back at in 5 years and say “ that really put the finishing touches on our young list “, as we hoist up our second consecutive premiership trophy.


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                        I get that feeling every year
                        He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                        • Ruck'n'Roll
                          Ego alta, ergo ictus
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 3990

                          Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                          Happy draft day !
                          All I could think was "Thank God that's over" - it feels like an ultra-marathon, with all of us doing our Cliff Young impressions.

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                          • Captain
                            Captain of the Side
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 3602

                            Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                            Happy draft day ! Does anyone else get the feeling this will be a historic draft for us, the one we look back at in 5 years and say “ that really put the finishing touches on our young list “, as we hoist up our second consecutive premiership trophy.

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                            Looks like we will have two top 10 players along with a potentially top 20 player. I can't recall the last time (if ever) we have had three picks in the first 20.

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                            • Ralph Dawg
                              Senior Player
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 1729

                              It's increasingly looking like it will be down to Thilthorpe / McDonald or DGB. From a team balance point of view, we need a big forward more than a big defender. But there is a thought that DGB is just a better player than both.

                              Who to take? If it's Thilthorpe v DGB, I'd be picking DGB. If it's McDonald v DGB, I just don't know. Happy to leave it to KB and the team!

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                              • Blood Fever
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4040

                                Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                                It's increasingly looking like it will be down to Thilthorpe / McDonald or DGB. From a team balance point of view, we need a big forward more than a big defender. But there is a thought that DGB is just a better player than both.

                                Who to take? If it's Thilthorpe v DGB, I'd be picking DGB. If it's McDonald v DGB, I just don't know. Happy to leave it to KB and the team!
                                Watched the latest interview with Kinnear Beatson. Always has a reassuring effect on me. Has earned a lot of trust over the years and I hope he sticks around the Swans for a lot longer.

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