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  • goswannies
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2007
    • 3051

    Originally posted by barry
    One of the issues with this board is you cant edit a post when on a mobile phone, so you have to just reply.
    Dont quite see how this is my fault, but whatever rocks you boat.
    I think you can edit it for about 20 minutes

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    • dimelb
      pr. dim-melb; m not f
      • Jun 2003
      • 6889

      Originally posted by Meg
      Interesting article over the weekend which said that ‘Sydney asked the AFL for special dispensation which would have allowed superstar forward Lance Franklin access to the club during the shutdown period to minimise his chance of injury.’

      Request refused and Franklin injured when club training resumed. Obviously this might have happened anyway, something no-one can judge with certainty.

      However it seems to me it was pig-headed of the AFL not to allow medical staff at all Clubs (not just the Swans) to work with injured players/players in rehabilitation during the shutdown. You and I were allowed to seek medical advice & assistance as necessary during the iso period. In fact we were actively encouraged to do so, with concern expressed that people were staying away from doctors which would lead to serious medical issues later.

      Surely the same should have applied to players with footy injuries.

      https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...28-p54x8j.html
      Damn right Meg. If I were calling the shots I'd be inclined to write to the AFL by way of politely advising them as a matter of courtesy what we were doing rather than asking permission in what stands out as an obvious precaution to take.
      Pig-headed bastards.
      He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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      • stevoswan
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2014
        • 8560

        Originally posted by barry
        Without redevelopment, I guess ANZ remains an AFL venue.

        The Grand old lady of Australian sport has a few songs left in her yet.
        But none that the Swans will be singing.....????

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        • Mel_C
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 4470

          Originally posted by Meg
          Interesting article over the weekend which said that ‘Sydney asked the AFL for special dispensation which would have allowed superstar forward Lance Franklin access to the club during the shutdown period to minimise his chance of injury.’

          Request refused and Franklin injured when club training resumed. Obviously this might have happened anyway, something no-one can judge with certainty.

          However it seems to me it was pig-headed of the AFL not to allow medical staff at all Clubs (not just the Swans) to work with injured players/players in rehabilitation during the shutdown. You and I were allowed to seek medical advice & assistance as necessary during the iso period. In fact we were actively encouraged to do so, with concern expressed that people were staying away from doctors which would lead to serious medical issues later.

          Surely the same should have applied to players with footy injuries.

          https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...28-p54x8j.html
          I had the same discussion with my family yesterday after reading the article. It will be interesting to see how many other players recovering from injuries might have been affected due to not having physical contact with medical staff. I think back to the injuries I've had in the past and I know I would struggle without seeing a physio.

          The AFL were obviously concerned about the spread of the virus when they made the decision but I think it will come back to bite them.

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            The AFL have handled it like they handle everything.

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            • royboy42
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2006
              • 2078

              Originally posted by barry
              One of the issues with this board is you cant edit a post when on a mobile phone, so you have to just reply.
              Dont quite see how this is my fault, but whatever rocks you boat.
              Now I remember what I"m thinking of.

              The unlamented Matt80.

              Let's not go down that road again.

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              • stellation
                scott names the planets
                • Sep 2003
                • 9721

                Originally posted by barry
                Without redevelopment, I guess ANZ remains an AFL venue.

                - - - Updated - - -

                The Grand old lady of Australian sport has a few songs left in her yet.
                This did make me giggle.
                I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                • barry
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8499

                  While we can all clearly see and appreciate how V'Landys has become the driving force in Australian sport, making Gill look like the spoilt polo playing dill we all knew he was, the facts of the matter are that NSW and QLD AFL teams will become the immediate targets of a new agressive NRL. V'Landys will be gunning hard against us, and we need to prepare. He has a lot of fingers in a lot of pies in NSW and NSW government, and can influence a lot of things against the swans.

                  Some might say that GWS are under far more threat than us, but put yourself in V'Landys shoes. Killing off GWS wont really effect to many people and only save the AFL a few million a year. If he really wants to dent AFL in NSW he would target the swans. Weakening us, and forcing the AFL to merge GWS and Swans (I have heard that!) would also weaken the brand "Swans".

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                  • mcs
                    Travelling Swannie!!
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 8168

                    Originally posted by barry
                    While we can all clearly see and appreciate how V'Landys has become the driving force in Australian sport, making Gill look like the spoilt polo playing dill we all knew he was, the facts of the matter are that NSW and QLD AFL teams will become the immediate targets of a new agressive NRL. V'Landys will be gunning hard against us, and we need to prepare. He has a lot of fingers in a lot of pies in NSW and NSW government, and can influence a lot of things against the swans.

                    Some might say that GWS are under far more threat than us, but put yourself in V'Landys shoes. Killing off GWS wont really effect to many people and only save the AFL a few million a year. If he really wants to dent AFL in NSW he would target the swans. Weakening us, and forcing the AFL to merge GWS and Swans (I have heard that!) would also weaken the brand "Swans".
                    Some of the dribble posted on here makes me laugh. Driving force of Australian sport
                    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                    • barry
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8499

                      Originally posted by mcs
                      Some of the dribble posted on here makes me laugh. Driving force of Australian sport
                      Little Victorian.

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                      • mcs
                        Travelling Swannie!!
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 8168

                        Originally posted by barry
                        Little Victorian.
                        You couldn't be more wrong Barry. Born and bred country NSW boy, know the league scene still far better then I know the AFL scene in Victoria (which is unsuprising since I have no affiliation to Victoria at all and have never lived there), even when my interest in rugby league at the elite level is somewhat peripheral compared to previous times.

                        I also know that V'landys isn't the Messiah you think he is - he is a 'house of cards' man that is all talk, but won't walk the walk when it comes to the push and shove. The only thing V'landys is good at is scrapping like Oliver Twist at the Government's door asking 'Please sir can I have some more'.

                        NRL as a sport is going nowhere, despite boot licking attempts to suggest otherwise - they are experts at attempting to dress a pig up to look like a princess. If it wasn't for rugby union that makes every other sport look well run...
                        "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                        • barry
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8499

                          Except all evidence suggests otherwise.

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                          • mcs
                            Travelling Swannie!!
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 8168

                            Originally posted by barry
                            Except all evidence suggests otherwise.
                            In your opinion only Barry - remember that, its your opinion. Evidence is objective, but its interpretation is highly subjective. Others are free to hold a contrary view to you - you repeating your latest 'go to view' over and over ad nausea doesn't suddenly make it fact, despite that being your modus operandi on this board for many years.

                            There are plenty of indicators out there that the dressing up of a pig with lipstick continues with the NRL as it always has since the Super League war days.

                            Perfect example is to trying to package up the new TV deal as some sort of miraculous deal, when scratching under the surface and looking past the attention grabbing headlines, its not a particularly good deal at all where the code is somewhat worse off in the medium to longer term - and that's assuming Foxtel doesn't fall over at some stage (which is a genuine possibility). I'm pretty sure even you admitted how strange it was to be trying to negotiate an extension at this stage, when there is plenty of time to run on the current contract.

                            But I expect that ties into the need to ensure they can address the issues that are likely to arise from the need earlier in the year for the NRL to desperately go chasing overseas for funding from what is more than likely to be a consortium only one step off being loan sharks, to source contingency funding to continue through the crisis as a good thing - following the game admitting it had basically nothing in its equivalent of the future fund, despite record revenues for years and years and years and a detailed plan going back almost a decade to save money for a rainy day.

                            Then there's the fact its a competition where the administrativee body costs the code half a million dollars a day.

                            Oh, then there is the latest stadium mess - the key point being there was V'landys yet again showing his true colours of a first reaction still being a hand out to government - "Give us 4 stadiums or else...."

                            Yes elements of those issues are pre-V'landys. but there is zero evidence to show he has changed anything of substance about how the NRL works since he has taken over, or that he is the messiah you pretend he maybe.

                            In reality, he is the perfect chairman for the NRL - he has no long term vision, and with a strong penchant to be obsessed with the largest greatest fad - because its the only strategy he knows,, as reflected by some of the tripe dreamed up by Racing NSW under his stewardship.

                            He will prove in time to be doing nothing but another administrator of the game used to flapping about baying for any attention possible, looking for anyone else to foot the bill, rather then getting on with actual reforms to fix the maladministration that has plagued the code for decades.

                            None of that is to say the AFL isn't guilty of similar crimes in its own ways. And we all know the mess Union has got itself into.
                            Last edited by mcs; 5 June 2020, 12:07 AM.
                            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                            • KTigers
                              Senior Player
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 2499

                              Folks, so I have a question. I am thinking of ditching Foxtel after having it since when it started. The thought of continuing to hand over
                              money to the Murdochs has become too much for me. Can someone tell me besides free to air TV and the pub is there somewhere else that
                              screens the games. Happy to pay, just not to that evil empire.

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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                I have never had foxtel. You get all swans and Giants games on FTA and another game. How much footy do you need?..
                                I've dabbled with kayo a few times, buy I find it boring and the talk shows are horid.

                                I think a Telstra mobile gets you all games and you can probability Chromecast to your tv.

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