Round 2 vs Essendon

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  • lwjoyner
    Regular in the Side
    • Nov 2004
    • 942

    #76
    re buddy, do we need a new head medical honcho. something wrong and when u include reid highlights problem

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    • waswan
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2015
      • 2047

      #77
      Originally posted by lwjoyner
      re buddy, do we need a new head medical honcho. something wrong and when u include reid highlights problem
      It does need to be explained how nearly half a season is common place for a non tendon hamstring injury

      Age is one thing but Treloar was 8 weeks out for surgery on both Hamstrings

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      • 111431
        Regular in the Side
        • Sep 2010
        • 697

        #78
        Originally posted by waswan
        It does need to be explained how nearly half a season is common place for a non tendon hamstring injury

        Age is one thing but Treloar was 8 weeks out for surgery on both Hamstrings
        I think part of it may be explained by Buddy being about 20+ kgs heavier and a few years older

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        • waswan
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2015
          • 2047

          #79
          Originally posted by 111431
          I think part of it may be explained by Buddy being about 20+ kgs heavier and a few years older
          I agree it plays a decent part but typically a hammy is 5 weeks max.
          This isnt surgery or even a kicking leg

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            #80
            Originally posted by lwjoyner
            re buddy, do we need a new head medical honcho. something wrong and when u include reid highlights problem
            If we recruit Joe Daniher, maybe he can bring the Essendon medical team with him.


            Buddy has played 300 games in 15 years (Ave. 20 games a season), which is a pretty good record. Granted the last couple of years have been a troubling sign for what the final years of his contract might bring, but it's been a pleasure to have the most exciting player in the game rock up for the Swans the past 6 years.

            I was pretty happy about both the Tippett and Franklin signings at the time, but with the benefit of hindsight, I've turned negative about big contract signings of marquee players. I'm not against signing A-Grade players, but we should do in a way that's less risky than we have in the past. I think recruiting 2nd tier players more often provides the best value for money.

            Given where the club is at the moment, it's not all that bad having Franklin and Reid out of action for a while. It should help the development of our young forward line, giving them time to work together without the focus on a superstar player always being the 1st option. The benefits should be realised in the coming years.

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            • Hotpotato
              Senior Player
              • Jun 2014
              • 2261

              #81
              Yep, agree with Lud, I’d prefer to see the careers of several potential stars (not necessarily super stars) realised than one marque player getting contracts like Buddy notwithstanding the excitement he has brought to the Swans.

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8543

                #82
                Ahh hindsight.....it's a conveniently wonderful thing.

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                • stevoswan
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 8543

                  #83
                  Originally posted by The Runner
                  If Daniher is available, you get Daniher
                  Yes, of course we do.....because we so need another crock.
                  Not saying Buddy is/was a crock but he might be now....makes no sense to chase another one.

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                  • Ruck'n'Roll
                    Ego alta, ergo ictus
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 3990

                    #84
                    Originally posted by barry
                    Pyke fell off the cliff with injuries far earlier than anyone expected.
                    Sometimes a players value can best be seen in his absence. I think Pyke probably fell off the cliff because he was asked to fill the boots of Shane Mumford - and he simply couldn't do it.

                    Yeah Mummy got subbed out injured in the granny, but without him I do not believe we would have gotten there in the first place.

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                    • Melbourne_Blood
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2010
                      • 3312

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                      Sometimes a players value can best be seen in his absence. I think Pyke probably fell off the cliff because he was asked to fill the boots of Shane Mumford - and he simply couldn't do it.

                      Yeah Mummy got subbed out injured in the granny, but without him I do not believe we would have gotten there in the first place.
                      He did a bloody good job of it in 2013, his contesting marking and 28 goals that year were elite for a ruckman. Was stiff to miss the AA initial squad that year I thought. I do agree about Mummy in 2012. He did nothing on the the big day due to carrying injury but he did heaps to get us to that point and deserved the medal as much as anyone that year.


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                      • Ruck'n'Roll
                        Ego alta, ergo ictus
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 3990

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Hotpotato
                        Yep, agree with Lud, I’d prefer to see the careers of several potential stars (not necessarily super stars) realised than one marque player getting contracts like Buddy notwithstanding the excitement he has brought to the Swans.
                        Originally posted by stevoswan
                        Ahh hindsight.....it's a conveniently wonderful thing.

                        As someone who questioned the gamble at the time - and was roundly lambasted clean off this very forum for doing so:

                        I find the suggestion, that any doubts being expressed about the value of the Buddy/Kurt gamble today is nothing but convenient hindsight - extremely unpleasant. Please cease.
                        Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 29 May 2020, 09:04 PM.

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          #87
                          SYDNEY has backed its young group of goalkickers to overcome the absence of Lance Franklin, with young star Isaac Heeney set to play as a key forward.

                          Heeney the key forward? Swans plan for life without Buddy

                          Tom Papley:
                          “Isaac is going to be massive for us down forward, as we saw in round one not many players can match up on him so I'm looking forward to that as well," Papley said.

                          "[He] is going to play a lot more as a key forward, Tommy McCartin and Nick Blakey they're going to change their roles.

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                          • Mel_C
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 4470

                            #88
                            I hope this isn't going to be Reid's injury year again like what happens every second year ????.

                            I read that Ben Reid felt sorry for his brother and has also injured his calf.

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                            • goswannies
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 3048

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                              He did a bloody good job of it in 2013, his contesting marking and 28 goals that year were elite for a ruckman. Was stiff to miss the AA initial squad that year I thought
                              Yeah but he was pretty much the first choice for every position in the All Canadian team that year

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                              • Legs Akimbo
                                Grand Poobah
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 2809

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Markwebbos
                                SYDNEY has backed its young group of goalkickers to overcome the absence of Lance Franklin, with young star Isaac Heeney set to play as a key forward.

                                Heeney the key forward? Swans plan for life without Buddy

                                Tom Papley:
                                “Isaac is going to be massive for us down forward, as we saw in round one not many players can match up on him so I'm looking forward to that as well," Papley said.

                                "[He] is going to play a lot more as a key forward, Tommy McCartin and Nick Blakey they're going to change their roles.
                                This excites me. Heeney is a forward through and through. Isaac, the time has come to make your mark.
                                He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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