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  • Blood Fever
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 4045

    #16
    Originally posted by Captain
    This is crap. He specifically talked about Street Talk in the podcast but I bet you didn’t bother to listen to get your facts straight.
    Saw it with my own eyes. There is a reason he finally got the arse from 9.

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    • Blood Fever
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      • Apr 2007
      • 4045

      #17
      Originally posted by Captain
      This is crap. He specifically talked about Street Talk in the podcast but I bet you didn’t bother to listen to get your facts straight.
      Why would I listen? Seen and heard too much from him over the years. Has a history of kicking the indigenous as well as being a misogynist. Dinosaur.

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      • Captain
        Captain of the Side
        • Feb 2004
        • 3602

        #18
        Originally posted by Blood Fever
        Why would I listen? Seen and heard too much from him over the years. Has a history of kicking the indigenous as well as being a misogynist. Dinosaur.
        Exactly. Why listen when you can just make stuff up, take things out of context and get stuck in.

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        • KTigers
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2012
          • 2499

          #19
          Originally posted by Captain
          To simplify it for you, people don't like Sam because they don't like his political views. Instead of ignoring him, like I might ignore David Shoebridge, they go out of their way to bring him down.
          Bring him down? from where? His highly exalted position as a racist, patronising podcast blowhard. Yep, cut down in his prime alright.

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          • Sandridge
            Outer wing, Lake Oval
            • Apr 2010
            • 2073

            #20
            Originally posted by Captain
            Exactly. Why listen when you can just make stuff up, take things out of context and get stuck in.
            You mean, like the way Sheahan, Scott and Newman "made up stuff" about what Winmar was thinking when he did what he did?

            They were three white guys who had the audacity to presume that they knew what an indigenous man was thinking when he raised his guernsey and pointed to his skin. They deserve everything they get for impudence and stupidity alone.
            Sure, they’re allowed to have an opinion. But if they’d bothered to ask Winmar what his motives were before they opened their mouths, they could’ve then formed an opinion that was based on fact.

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            • Blood Fever
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 4045

              #21
              Originally posted by Sandridge
              You mean, like the way Sheahan, Scott and Newman "made up stuff" about what Winmar was thinking when he did what he did?

              They were three white guys who had the audacity to presume that they knew what an indigenous man was thinking when he raised his guernsey and pointed to his skin. They deserve everything they get for impudence and stupidity alone.
              Sure, they’re allowed to have an opinion. But if they’d bothered to ask Winmar what his motives were before they opened their mouths, they could’ve then formed an opinion that was based on fact.
              And they are now in the process of being rightly humiliated.

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              • Sandridge
                Outer wing, Lake Oval
                • Apr 2010
                • 2073

                #22
                Originally posted by Blood Fever
                And they are now in the process of being rightly humiliated.

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                • KTigers
                  Senior Player
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 2499

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Blood Fever
                  And they are now in the process of being rightly humiliated.
                  The thing is, to these three blowhards Winmar is just a dumb indigenous footballer who couldn't possibly know what he was doing.
                  They want to live in this entitled fantasy world of "good blokes", and anyone that complains or protests is just soft and a whinger
                  (see Newman's comments on Goodsey), or being exploited by "elites" (Winmar).
                  Last edited by KTigers; 4 July 2020, 04:59 PM.

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                  • Blood Fever
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                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4045

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Captain
                    This is crap. He specifically talked about Street Talk in the podcast but I bet you didn’t bother to listen to get your facts straight.
                    Are you going to bother to read Newman's apology? Couldn't be clearer. He has stuffed whatever sliver of a reputation he still had.

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                    • stevoswan
                      Veterans List
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8555

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Blood Fever
                      Notice there is mediation proposed between Winmar and Newman, Scott and Sheehan. If I was Winmar, I wouldn't bother nor be so generous.
                      This is because Winmar has rightly sued the three.....the mediation is part of that process.
                      I hope he makes them pay.....

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                      • snajik
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 1115

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Captain
                        Exactly. Why listen when you can just make stuff up, take things out of context and get stuck in.
                        Yet his bigotry is on the record many times over. Life's too short to be wasted on that guy.
                        It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
                        The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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                        • stevoswan
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                          • Sep 2014
                          • 8555

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Captain
                          I listen to the podcast all of the time and it is fantastic.

                          They absolutely said nothing wrong and it is a joke they have been smashed for this.

                          You may not like or agree with Sam Newman, that's fine, don't listen to him. The fact people constantly have to talk about him and go out of their way tell the world how bad he is frustrates me. Most of the time it is purely aligned to their political views.
                          So we stop calling out bigotry and racism in the hope that it just magically goes away (like the virus)?????

                          - - - Updated - - -

                          Originally posted by barry
                          Some things are called political, but really aren't. I mean, really, how did wearing a face mask become aligned to left or right politics. Same with racism, same with climate change.

                          Those who have those views try to frame it as politics to hide behind the rights of free speech.

                          Everyone has a right to an opinion, but more importantly, everyone has a RESPONSIBILITY to make it an informed opinion.
                          Spot on Barry.????

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                          • dejavoodoo44
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 8598

                            #28
                            Originally posted by snajik
                            Thanks for the recommendation Deja. I wasn't aware of this one. I'm a big fan of The Deadly Kerfuffle; thought it was brilliant.
                            Err, at the risk of sounding pedantic, you're mixing up Tony Wilson and Tony Martin. But hey, I saw a few cheap copies of The Deadly Kerfuffle, the other day. Since you're recommending it, I might grab a copy.

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                            • Blood Fever
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                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4045

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Captain
                              I listen to the podcast all of the time and it is fantastic.

                              They absolutely said nothing wrong and it is a joke they have been smashed for this.

                              You may not like or agree with Sam Newman, that's fine, don't listen to him. The fact people constantly have to talk about him and go out of their way tell the world how bad he is frustrates me. Most of the time it is purely aligned to their political views.
                              Do you have an opinion on his bullying and abuse of Goodes on national television? Or his blackface mocking Winmar? Calling out racism is not political, it's just common decency.

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                              • Captain
                                Captain of the Side
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 3602

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Blood Fever
                                Do you have an opinion on his bullying and abuse of Goodes on national television? Or his blackface mocking Winmar? Calling out racism is not political, it's just common decency.
                                Yes I do.

                                Goodes was definitely bullied. It was unacceptable and a big shame. I don’t believe it was racist. Not interested in opening that debate again though.

                                Blackface unacceptable as we all agree.

                                Nothing wrong with calling out racism but it has become political. People with agendas have hijacked this. As they have done in the States with BLM.

                                Bega cheese, Captain Cook, Ben Boyd Road, Redskins, Chicos, heck even the game of chess have all recently been declared ‘racist’.

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