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Do you mean racist, or racially insensitive? It might be political to some, but certainly not all. Surely most of us can determine when someone is acting respectfully, or acting like an arsehole. This is not notion that requires political allegiance.Yes I do.
Goodes was definitely bullied. It was unacceptable and a big shame. I don’t believe it was racist. Not interested in opening that debate again though.
Blackface unacceptable as we all agree.
Nothing wrong with calling out racism but it has become political. People with agendas have hijacked this. As they have done in the States with BLM.
Bega cheese, Captain Cook, Ben Boyd Road, Redskins, Chicos, heck even the game of chess have all recently been declared ‘racist’.
No offence, but I really can't see where being sympathetic to Sam Newman fits within this forum. His treatment of Adam Goodes was deplorable, and it shouldn't come as a surprise that Adam Goodes is held in the highest regard on this site. Newman contributed to Goodes leaving the game before his time.It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
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There will always be people who are over the top with political correctness. In this case, Newman and the others are clearly in the wrong on racial grounds and the apology spells this out clearly. By the way, Redskins and Chicos will soon be rightly gone. Disparaging names. And 98% of BLM supporters are non violent. Principles are what count.Yes I do.
Goodes was definitely bullied. It was unacceptable and a big shame. I don’t believe it was racist. Not interested in opening that debate again though.
Blackface unacceptable as we all agree.
Nothing wrong with calling out racism but it has become political. People with agendas have hijacked this. As they have done in the States with BLM.
Bega cheese, Captain Cook, Ben Boyd Road, Redskins, Chicos, heck even the game of chess have all recently been declared ‘racist’.Comment
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I used to be an avid chess player and still follow the top level games on Youtube. When I found out that some chess videos had been pulled by Youtube for racist language, it raised another troubling issue, which is how algorithms are making low level human decisions, like labeling something 'racist' or deciding what constitutes hate speech. The specific problem with chess is that the game commentator may say something like: "After that blunder, Black is lost. White will always be better than Black now." YouTube's community standards algorithm doesn't understand that comment refers to chess pieces and not people. Apparently, it was difficult to get a human at Youtube to override the algorithm.
We are well on our way to a dystopian world where algorithms run our lives and the Swans never make the finals.
On the broader issue of re-evaluating historical racism in the current climate, I think it's important to set the record straight. Histories from every culture reflect the positions of those in charge at the time of writing. Alternative perspectives, such as Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States, tend not to be promoted by mainstream media.
I heard a comment last week that if it were Japan that dropped atomic bombs on the United States, rather than the other way around, surely there would have been Japanese leaders tried for war crimes.
It's good to see that these important issues are at least being discussed in public fora. It's hard to say whether it will produce something positive or a reactionary backlash, which is often what has happened in the past.Comment
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You're not interested in opening the Goodesy debate again? Are you bored with it? You think the problem no longer exists? You've moved on?Yes I do.
Goodes was definitely bullied. It was unacceptable and a big shame. I don’t believe it was racist. Not interested in opening that debate again though.
Blackface unacceptable as we all agree.
Nothing wrong with calling out racism but it has become political. People with agendas have hijacked this. As they have done in the States with BLM.
Bega cheese, Captain Cook, Ben Boyd Road, Redskins, Chicos, heck even the game of chess have all recently been declared ‘racist’.Comment
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Because he showed that the booing hurt him and he didn’t like it. Once football crowds, particularly moronic ones like Hawthorn and West Coast, sense blood, they keep going. It then became a free for all. People had no idea why they were booing, they just booed because it put him off.
As mentioned, am not keen to open this debate all over again and am engaging no more.Comment
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One more question if I may - why do you think the booing started in the first place?Because he showed that the booing hurt him and he didn’t like it. Once football crowds, particularly moronic ones like Hawthorn and West Coast, sense blood, they keep going. It then became a free for all. People had no idea why they were booing, they just booed because it put him off.
As mentioned, am not keen to open this debate all over again and am engaging no more.Comment

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