Round 5 Vs West Coast Eagles

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  • Mr Magoo
    Senior Player
    • May 2008
    • 1255

    Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
    I was sitting right on centre wing, could almost see the whites of his eyes, which looked like the figurative deer when he had to make a few decisions.........
    Yeah hardest thing for a natural forward playing backline is deciding when you have to stick with your man and when you can actually attack the ball. As a forward you are used to just attacking the ball as it comes in. Can be quite hard for many natural forwards to adjust to.

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    • waswan
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2015
      • 2047

      Originally posted by Mr Magoo
      Yeah hardest thing for a natural forward playing backline is deciding when you have to stick with your man and when you can actually attack the ball. As a forward you are used to just attacking the ball as it comes in. Can be quite hard for many natural forwards to adjust to.
      Put him on the Wing, pit some suze on him and give him a tank. He has the same build Fyfe had, all shoulders, V back.

      Ollie has come thru by being consistently played on the wing.

      I wouldnt say he us a natural Fwd, he has been blessed playing alongside Buddy and Ried taking all the defences attention, most of his goals are over the back, he never kicks anything like Paps, in play, thats a natural forward.

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      • stevoswan
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2014
        • 8543

        Originally posted by Markwebbos
        Sam included some well chosen quotes from Adelaide hierarchy, including Ricciuto very recently, saying the camp had nothing to do with the loss of form and player exodus, and then demonstrates how it did. I thought its absolutely news.
        Ricciuto could be the problem.....for him to say the camp had nothing to do with their fall is frankly delusional. To me, he has always come across as confrontational and devisive.....and not the sort of 'administrator' that brings people together. He administrates the way he played.....like a battering ram.....and with arrogance. The 'club legend' tag doesn't instantly make you a good leader off the field. One needs to inspire those around them.....not frighten them into compliance.

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        • Mr Magoo
          Senior Player
          • May 2008
          • 1255

          Originally posted by waswan
          Put him on the Wing, pit some suze on him and give him a tank. He has the same build Fyfe had, all shoulders, V back.

          Ollie has come thru by being consistently played on the wing.

          I wouldnt say he us a natural Fwd, he has been blessed playing alongside Buddy and Ried taking all the defences attention, most of his goals are over the back, he never kicks anything like Paps, in play, thats a natural forward.
          I think Hayward played his junior career up forward so I guess when I say natural forward , I meant in that context. He's not a small forward in the mould of papley (Hayward is 187cm after all) but he has shown earlier in his career that he has a reasonable grab and kick but he looks out of sorts at the moment. He did have 5 tackles which was second only to Kennedy so that indicates the effort is their but the form isnt.

          Wing might be the position but Im not sure if he is truly the jet that you need down the flanks. Half back flank would seem a natural fit for his build and his major attributes and at least then you could free Mills into the midfield. I think its worth perservering. Hes not adding anything up forward except tackle pressure.

          If their were more options and times were different , a stint in the NEAFL would probably do him some good to get his confidence up but naturally thats not an option and scratch matches against GWS arent the answer in my view for building confidence.

          All those calling for Gould et al to be included , I think we need a reality check. They have had little senior football and you can expect that they will get smashed at AFL level and Im not sure thats really that good for their confidence going forward. Gould is probably the only one for me that is built for seniors at this stage but not sure that he has set the world on fire in the scratch matches.

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          • waswan
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2015
            • 2047

            Forward as Junior without being too tall really just means your athletic or dont have a tank.

            Midfielder as a junior means your committed, fit and tough

            Defender as a junior witjoit being too tall means your smart and good ball user


            Checkout this "Natural Midfielder"
            Weakness is his ability to play other positions



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            • Markwebbos
              Veterans List
              • Jul 2016
              • 7186

              Originally posted by waswan
              Forward as Junior without being too tall really just means your athletic or dont have a tank.

              Midfielder as a junior means your committed, fit and tough

              Defender as a junior witjoit being too tall means your smart and good ball user


              Checkout this "Natural Midfielder"
              Weakness is his ability to play other positions



              https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...=1594008699955
              Arrgghhh

              Great hands. If one thing could come from 2020 after Horse’s comment last week, please let him give Mills a run in the midfield

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              • Mr Magoo
                Senior Player
                • May 2008
                • 1255

                Originally posted by Markwebbos
                Arrgghhh

                Great hands. If one thing could come from 2020 after Horse’s comment last week, please let him give Mills a run in the midfield
                Yeah , good hands but gotta say not that great a kick. Very loopy and not much penetration.

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                  Yeah , good hands but gotta say not that great a kick. Very loopy and not much penetration.
                  Which makes his current role even more I’ll-suited!

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                  • Mr Magoo
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2008
                    • 1255

                    Originally posted by Markwebbos
                    Which makes his current role even more I’ll-suited!
                    Agreed. If his highlights reel is any indication, then half back flank is not his ideal role

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                    • jono2707
                      Goes up to 11
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 3326

                      Originally posted by Markwebbos
                      Which makes his current role even more I’ll-suited!
                      Always was, and always will be, a ball winning inside mid. Just don't think Horse ever got the memo.

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