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  • AnnieH
    RWOs Black Sheep
    • Aug 2006
    • 11332

    #46
    Horse says this is the worst run of injuries in his tenure.
    Do we blame the doctors?
    Do we bring back the great Nathan Gibbs?
    When do we start conditioning training? Seems that all those years ago, when they spent summer running up and down the sand dunes at Kurnell, that we didn't seem to break down as much.
    Thoughts?
    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
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    • KSAS
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2018
      • 1793

      #47
      Originally posted by AnnieH
      Horse says this is the worst run of injuries in his tenure.
      Do we blame the doctors?
      Do we bring back the great Nathan Gibbs?
      When do we start conditioning training? Seems that all those years ago, when they spent summer running up and down the sand dunes at Kurnell, that we didn't seem to break down as much.
      Thoughts?
      Hoping the club will do a medical review to explain why we developed a high injury list before the resumption of the season, particularly amongst the talls. I know this has been an extraordinary season amongst the competition in managing player fitness, but we seem to have out worst.

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      • MattW
        Veterans List
        • May 2011
        • 4220

        #48
        Originally posted by KSAS
        Hoping the club will do a medical review to explain why we developed a high injury list before the resumption of the season, particularly amongst the talls. I know this has been an extraordinary season amongst the competition in managing player fitness, but we seem to have out worst.
        I was thinking about this too. Presumably (hopefully) there's a medical report explaining the likely cause of each injury and the extent to which it could have been avoided by risk mitigation measures (such as warming up, not returning player to play after initial knock (e.g. Heeney?), returning to skills too soon etc).

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        • Auntie.Gerald
          Veterans List
          • Oct 2009
          • 6480

          #49
          Im at the stage of saying lets persist with Warner and Stephens............. given we have no hope in hell at a top8. You would guess they were brought into a game we didnt think we could win ie against Tigers so they have some legs and experience for the Suns where their development continues lol

          I think we should give Gould a taste and depending on fitness ET ?

          In: McCartin, AA, Gould, McInerney
          Out: Kennedy, Heeney, Gray, Fox
          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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          • Blood Fever
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 4050

            #50
            Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
            Im at the stage of saying lets persist with Warner and Stephens............. given we have no hope in hell at a top8. You would guess they were brought into a game we didnt think we could win ie against Tigers so they have some legs and experience for the Suns where their development continues lol

            I think we should give Gould a taste and depending on fitness ET ?

            In: McCartin, AA, Gould, McInerney
            Out: Kennedy, Heeney, Gray, Fox
            Fox? Surely not after his game on Sunday. 3 votes from the coaches.

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            • Auntie.Gerald
              Veterans List
              • Oct 2009
              • 6480

              #51
              its a fair point BF

              i struggled with this weekend vs the season vs building a squad for the future

              its killing me

              Do you see Fox a 2021 player or does blooding our future talent not matter so much this wknd?

              i keep chopping and changing my thoughts ie could ET or Gould surpass Fox by season end if given the chance ?
              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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              • goswannies
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2007
                • 3051

                #52
                Originally posted by AnnieH
                Horse says this is the worst run of injuries in his tenure.
                Do we blame the doctors?
                Do we bring back the great Nathan Gibbs?
                When do we start conditioning training? Seems that all those years ago, when they spent summer running up and down the sand dunes at Kurnell, that we didn't seem to break down as much.
                Thoughts?
                Glad you haven’t mentioned the physios among the culprits

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                • Melbourne_Blood
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2010
                  • 3312

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                  its a fair point BF

                  i struggled with this weekend vs the season vs building a squad for the future

                  its killing me

                  Do you see Fox a 2021 player or does blooding our future talent not matter so much this wknd?

                  i keep chopping and changing my thoughts ie could ET or Gould surpass Fox by season end if given the chance ?
                  I think you still need a few guys like Fox in the side to play the roles that allow the young guys to develop. Eg. Playing undersized on Tom Lynch. Not sure that is doing Gould any favours if he has to take on that role in his first season.

                  While I’m warming more to getting more youth in this year( considering where we are at with injuries etc.) we still need some senior bodies to protect the young guys a bit.

                  Fox may not be a part of our next flag contending side but him taking some heat off the young guys for a season or two should aid their development I think.


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                  • longmile
                    Crumber
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 3366

                    #54
                    Any further word on what happened with AA? Or does Horse just have faves???

                    Be very interesting to hear which talls are available. Brand and McCartin sound likely. Sinclair and Reid perhaps one more week?

                    Besides the two injuries I'd drop Stoddard and Gray who don't look AFL standard. Hayward and Fox redeemed themselves this week with impressive defensive performances. I think Taylor has been hard done by and should be kept in the squad especially with some tall support coming over the next two weeks. AA back in is surely a no brainer and I hope one of Reid or Sinclair are available and to be played as a pure tall FWD, not so sure on McCartins form so far this year. Brand to come in and be the third tall defender with Rampe and Fox, with AA and McLean to rotate ruck and FWD.

                    ... also hope Mills moves to midfield despite his impressive defensive work last week.

                    Out: Heeney and Kennedy (inj), Stoddard and Gray (omitted)
                    In: Sinclair, Brand, Taylor and AA
                    Last edited by longmile; 14 July 2020, 12:12 PM.

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                    • Blood Fever
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4050

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                      its a fair point BF

                      i struggled with this weekend vs the season vs building a squad for the future

                      its killing me

                      Do you see Fox a 2021 player or does blooding our future talent not matter so much this wknd?

                      i keep chopping and changing my thoughts ie could ET or Gould surpass Fox by season end if given the chance ?
                      Reckon he is a horses for courses player given his size but you still need a few competent depth players around and who knows, he might blossom. Good head on his shoulders as well. Gould should get a game shortly and then we can start to judge.

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                      • Captain
                        Captain of the Side
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 3602

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Blood Fever
                        Fox? Surely not after his game on Sunday. 3 votes from the coaches.
                        Crazy to think that Fox will/should be dropped. Absurd.

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                        • AB Swannie
                          Senior Player
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 1579

                          #57
                          Originally posted by longmile
                          Any further word on what happened with AA? Or does Horse just have faves???
                          I think both Blakey and Longmire have both made it pretty clear in different interviews that AA was dropped for form reasons. There isn’t any smoke and mirrors.

                          Personally, I wouldn’t have dropped AA myself but in hindsight it wasn’t a bad call considering how we’ll Fox played. In fact, Fox played much better than AA has all year.

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                          • ugg
                            Can you feel it?
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15970

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Odysseus
                            On the thread for yesterday's game, MattW brought attention to an interview Horse gave to Gerard Healy on 3AW:

                            John Longmire gives an insight into his phone call with Damien Hardwick – 3AW

                            Horse said [5m 35 secs in] that the side we fielded yesterday was our youngest since 1997.
                            This is incorrect. The NM game last year was younger at an average of 23 years and 208 days, the Tigers game had an average of 24 years 45 days

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                            • Blood Fever
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4050

                              #59
                              Originally posted by ugg
                              This is incorrect. The NM game last year was younger at an average of 23 years and 208 days, the Tigers game had an average of 24 years 45 days

                              RIC - https://afltables.com/afl/stats/game...620200712.html
                              NM - https://afltables.com/afl/stats/game...620190518.html
                              Great get Ugg! Are you related to Stan the Statistician?

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                              • Molly dooker
                                Lifer!
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 247

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Blood Relative
                                A Molly Dooker, no doubt?
                                Nothing wrong with Molly Dooker!

                                JPK will be out for longer than 8 weeks for sure. Sorry to say. ????

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